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Known to many as Amiskwetchi-Weskagen, Edmonton is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=17.6,24.76"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"located on Treaty 6 territory and Region 4 of the Métis Nation of Alberta. I'm Sarah","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=24.76,31.6"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kratz, the Director of the CLC, and it is my great pleasure to introduce the poets Moni","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=31.6,37.439"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Brar and Randy Lundy, who reflect on the significance of land and water, the theme of our 2022 series.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=37.439,48.16"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Moni Brar was born in rural India, raised in northern British Columbia, and now divides","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=48.16,54.4"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"her time between the unceded territories of the Treaty 7 Nations and Métis Nation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=54.4,59.759"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Alberta Region 3 in Calgary, and of the Syilx Okanagan Nation in Oliver, BC, where","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=59.759,67.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"her family farms. Brar has been recognized by several writing awards and honors over","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=67.04,73.76"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the years, including most recently, the 2022 Lieutenant Governor of Alberta Emerging Artist","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=73.76,80.76"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Award. 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Among other places, you can find","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=95.44,102.599"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Moni Brar's work in Best Canadian Poetry, the Literary Review of Canada, and the new","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=102.599,108.76"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"quarterly Passages North and Prairie Fire. 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In this podcast,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=157.36,165.36"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lundy and Moni read beautiful, moving poems that are vividly animated by precise, detailed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=165.36,172.52"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"attention to flora and fauna, among other things. 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Their poetry shows how, through acts of noticing, the land and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=185.759,193.279"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"water become kin and teacher. Here for your listening and enjoyment and reflection is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=193.279,200.559"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their conversation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=200.559,205.559"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the first question we agreed to sort of pose to each other was simply, what places","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=205.559,210.86"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Canada do you feel rooted in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=210.86,215.759"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this is a great question, and one that I look forward to hearing your response to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=215.759,220.679"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for myself. I struggle with this question, and I struggle with the word rooted. For me,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=221.479,231.479"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"personally, it implies a sense of deep connection or belonging. And as an immigrant settler,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=232.759,241.24"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would say I've always felt precariously rooted in Canada. 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And I think this hesitation arose from my parents,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=259.64,264.839"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who really resisted assimilation when they arrived in Canada. 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That's lovely. Thank you, Randy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=382.92,387.559"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was just thinking that you mentioned sort of that, you know, emphasize that term rooted","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=391.559,397.88"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and sort of the implications of that term. And it reminds me, I was having a conversation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=399.0,410.279"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like this at one point. Tim Lilburn was involved. And I remember him at one point making a comment","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=410.44,419.48"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that he felt like this land didn't see him. 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But I'm not a fan of Tim's writing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=457.32,465.32"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this was one of those moments where in the conversation, I said to Tim, because sometimes","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=466.119,476.279"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I should keep my mouth shut and I don't. 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And that's one of the interesting tensions, I think,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=525.799,531.239"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at least in what I've seen, is that tension between here and there, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=532.84,537.4"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=538.2,538.919"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tension between this place and at least memories of the other place, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=538.919,544.84"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's sort of interesting to me because, you know, for most Indigenous people in this country,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=549.88,557.08"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, we're mixed blood as well, right? 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My writing has evolved over time, but those things are always present.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=3840.358,3845.639"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And for me, you know, not everybody writes like that, not plain, but for me and for the way I write,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=3847.878,3854.279"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"those images are right at the centre of all my writing. And for me, and it's,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=3857.078,3866.358"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this is how I'm hearing your poems at least as well, is that's how they're rooted in the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=3866.999,3872.839"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=3873.559,3874.279"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As they drop on those images of our relatives, of those real things that are right outside the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=3874.279,3880.119"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"door right now, right outside this window. 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They weren't men's ceremonies. 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I, yeah, I was not aware of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=4166.278,4170.119"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I also wanted to, Randy, just loop back to something that struck me earlier when you were","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=4171.398,4176.119"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"saying that as a child growing up, you did not have many holidays and the ones you did have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=4176.199,4182.519"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were to the Okanagan. 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We would be given some money and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361#t=4268.918,4275.319"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108189/file/209361/transcript/78929/annotation/634","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we would go back. So that the land was in service to us. 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