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He is co-editor with Alison Donnell of the 2011 Routledge Companion to Anglophone Caribbean Literature, guest co-editor with Kezia Page of the 2018 Special Issue of the Journal of West Indian Literature on Marlon James, and guest co-editor with Conrad James of the 2016 Special Issue of Caribbean Quarterly on Caribbean Masculinities.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Relation"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/r/kd1qf8m30g\"\u003eReading and Conversation with Olive Senior\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["aging--retirement homes (topical)","awards--Commonwealth Writers Prize (topical)","awards--grant applications (topical)","awards--publicity and validation (topical)","Canada--writing culture (topical)","Caribbean--leaving (topical)","Caribbean--Indigenous people (topical)","Caribbean--poetry (topical)","childhood--appreciation of nature (topical)","childhood--as inspiration for writing (topical)","childhood--humour (topical)","childhood--in rural communities (topical)","childhood--in twentieth century Jamaica (topical)","childhood---precocious and forceripe (topical)","children’s literature--depicting food and culture (topical)","children’s literature--depicting national history (topical)","colonialism--education (topical)","colonialism--erasure of Indigenous presence (topical)","Derek Walcott--The Harbour (poem) (topical)","education--as a writer (topical)","education--place in the literary curriculum (topical)","encyclopedia--research and writing process (topical)","Jamaica--bogside mining (topical)","Jamaica--Christianity (topical)","Jamaica--Cockpit Country (topical)","Jamaica--farming (topical)","Jamaica--karst topography","Jamaica--landscape (topical)","Jamaica--literary education (topical)","Jamaica--Maroons and the nation’s history (topical)","journalism--as beginning of writing career (topical)","Kei Miller--influence on (topical)","Marlon James--influence on (topical)","Panama Canal--labour history (topical)","publishing--academic (topical)","publishing--book design (topical)","publishing--diversity in (topical)","publishing--economic factors (topical)","publishing--Institute of Jamaica Publications (topical)","publishing--large publishers (topical)","publishing--self-publishing (topical)","publishing--small publishers (topical)","publishing--through a limited liability company (topical)","social mobility (topical)","Taíno--basket-making (topical)","Taíno--culture (topical)","Taíno--history (topical)","Taíno--heritage (topical)","Taíno--living presence in the Caribbean (topical)","Taíno--mythology (topical)","Taíno--recovering their presence through writing (topical)","writing--and the environment (topical)","writing--as a collective process (topical)","writing--humour (topical)","writing--intuitively (topical)","writing--quoted in political demonstrations (topical)","writing--research (topical)","writing--revisiting earlier work (topical)","writing--without mentors (topical)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Interview","Poetry","Reading"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/?language=en\"\u003eIn Copyright\u003c/a\u003e. 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I know that this is very shocking to young people. 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So that's very much a part of my formative years. And of course,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1072.969,1078.689"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the beauty of it is extraordinary, beautiful, the sounds, the smells, and so on. And that is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1078.689,1085.169"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very much embedded in my consciousness up to today. I mean, if I think of my childhood,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1085.169,1090.169"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think of people, I'm a horrible child. I mean, I, you know, I don't think about family","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1090.169,1095.449"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and all of that. I just see the landscape. And, you know, it is that which I've internalized. 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Inflected in the first title of the first","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1104.969,1109.689"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"collection of poem talking of trees, which already implies a kind of engagement with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1109.689,1116.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the environment. And tell us about that first collection. You're fairly young, you've had these","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1116.809,1124.529"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"two publications, but this is your first poetry collection. Yeah. And I think it was with Calabash.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1124.529,1131.208"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, tell me the story, please. Yeah, I think that and Summer Lightning came out at about the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1131.208,1140.768"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"same time. So my first poetry collection, my first fiction collection. Summer Lightning was published","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1140.768,1147.089"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by a big British longman, educational publisher. But those talking of trees, I published myself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1147.089,1158.448"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because I had I've been writing poetry. And I thought, ah, this is a book. But I didn't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1158.448,1164.208"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't know any publishers. And actually, I'm not sure anyone in Jamaica at the time","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1164.208,1167.928"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was would have been publishing poetry. And so I just decided to do it myself. And I named","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1167.928,1174.768"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the publishing company Calabash. And I, I did everything myself, because I'm very interested","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1174.768,1180.728"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in graphics and so on. So I designed the book, I designed the Calabash and the logo, please","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1180.728,1186.529"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"note the cover of the book, the typeface, you know, I it was my production from start","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1186.529,1193.569"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to finish. Yeah. You see why we need to have these conversations? Because I would have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1193.569,1197.969"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gone by what was imprinted and thinking there is a Calabash publisher somewhere. Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1197.969,1209.608"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And how many? I mean, how did you decide on what poems you're going to put in it and all","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1209.608,1214.328"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of those things? I mean, this was prior to you're doing any kind of work in publishing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1214.328,1220.168"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or studies in publishing and so on. It was fairly early. I didn't have a lot of poems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1220.168,1225.569"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think I probably put them all in. And I have to say, I'm a little embarrassed. A","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1225.569,1232.208"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"few, a few of them. Yeah, I just, you know, I just, I felt, okay, I want to have a book","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1232.208,1238.488"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of poetry out in the same way I had a collection of short stories. So, you know, you just,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1238.488,1245.249"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in terms of your writing journey, you get to that stage. I didn't feel like some people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1245.249,1250.888"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"do that the first thing I write must be out there is a book. I never had that desire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1250.888,1255.289"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I just got there and felt now is the time when I need to have a book out. Were you sending","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1255.289,1261.409"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out poems like an individual poem to a journal or anything like that? No, I've never done","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1261.409,1266.208"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"much of that really. You won't see my work in any of the literary journals. They were","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1266.208,1271.009"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"published in Jamaica Journal because I won prizes. You're not in BIN? I'm not in any","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1271.009,1275.648"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of those. Wow. Because up to now, I never send out my work. I'm too shy to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1275.648,1281.768"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I never do. In 19, between 1982 and 89, you were the managing director of the Institute","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1281.768,1288.608"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Jamaica Publications. This summer, I went to the National Library, and I could not find","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1288.608,1299.488"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in their annual report, any reference to the Institute of Jamaica Publications. And I said,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1299.488,1306.569"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but it's part of the whole enterprise. Where is this information? There was no reference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1306.569,1312.849"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was no budget line. And I was kind of confused. And I said, no, I know. I have the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1312.849,1321.689"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jamaica Journals. And I see managing director of the Institute, the editor of Jamaica Journals,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1321.689,1329.009"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no reference to Olive Senior. 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Tell me about that journey in 1982 to 1989. Well, that came","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1363.768,1371.048"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about because I was asked to take over as editor of Jamaica Journal. The Institute of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1371.048,1378.168"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jamaica is sort of a mini Smithsonian. It's an umbrella organization, science, the arts,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1378.168,1385.009"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and so on. And Jamaica Journal is a quarterly that had been going for some time. And the editor","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1385.048,1389.768"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"left, and somebody asked me if I'd take it over. So I said yes, and I did the first one. 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I just, I make those choices, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1486.649,1490.689"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So did, were you invited to this position, or you saw an ad and applied for it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1490.689,1497.048"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I was asked to take over as editor. That's how it began. 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Can","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1528.329,1533.408"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you recall how you felt at that time, winning this prestigious award? 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And the Times, I'll have you know the Times, had something called","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1578.569,1586.249"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"court circular, where they listed the Queen's appointments. And, and they published an article,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1586.249,1593.088"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which said, standing up the Queen. So I mean, history, you don't know that. But part of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1593.249,1602.848"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the prize actually was being having a private audience with Queen Elizabeth at Buckingham","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1602.848,1608.569"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Palace. So from that point, when I did go to England, you know, that was it. I mean,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1608.569,1614.048"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seriously, it sure it was a big moment in my life, because by that up to that point,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1614.048,1621.369"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was struggling. I wanted to be a writer. As I said, I didn't have any mentors. I didn't,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1621.369,1626.369"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, I didn't know anything. I was on my own. But I was determined that this is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1626.408,1631.088"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what I wanted to do. So winning this prize was a validation to me that I had made the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1631.088,1636.689"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right choice. You know what I mean? It got a lot of publicity and so on, not in Jamaica,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1636.689,1643.329"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they, our local newspaper didn't even report it. So just to tell you how, but I did, it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1643.329,1649.608"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did open a lot of doors for me. I have to confess that at the time, I didn't really","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1649.608,1655.329"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"take advantage because I was very shy. And I just didn't, you know, I met a lot of people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1655.329,1661.848"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who would have engaged with me and so on, but I just didn't follow through. I just wasn't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1661.848,1668.528"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ready for it. I had nobody to advise me. And so I lost a lot of opportunities that I otherwise","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1668.528,1675.088"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would have had. But I did get a lot of attention. I got excellent reviews. And winning the prize","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1675.129,1682.129"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"opened doors in that my publisher wanted my next book and so on. I don't know that it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1683.168,1689.569"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"has lasted, but at that stage of my career, it was very important. And I, you know, I'm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1689.569,1695.209"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"still grateful. It's a very meaningful moment in my life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1695.209,1702.209"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, maybe we should pause and have a taste of Summer Lightning. And you have identified","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1702.528,1709.528"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one of my favorite stories in it, Do Angels Wear Braziers? Yesterday, you heard her reading","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1711.288,1717.408"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"poetry, but perhaps we can hear a bit of prose from Olive today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=1717.408,1723.129"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. 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Tell me, my little girl, is there anything in the Bible you would like to ask me about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2177.758,2184.758"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, sir. Who in the Bible wrote big? Who in the Bible wrote big, my dear child? This","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2185.758,2192.758"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wasn't the kind of question Archdeacon was expecting, but he's always telling himself","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2194.998,2199.797"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how he has rapport with children, so he decided to confess his ignorance. Tell me who? 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Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2282.878,2289.878"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What is the smallest insect in the Bible? The widow's mite, Archdeacon shouted. The","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2290.397,2297.397"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wicked flea, Becca cried. Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. Becca, Archdeacon laughing so hard now,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2301.637,2308.637"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he's starting to cough. He cough and cough, till the coughing bring him to his senses. 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He spot her a few times into his handkerchief, wipe his eyes, sit up straight, and assume","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2320.597,2327.597"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his most religious expression. Even Becca is impressed. Now Rebecca, hmm, you're a very","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2328.797,2335.558"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"entertaining, very clever little girl, very. 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Thank you so much Olive for that. Thank you so much for that Olive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2463.037,2470.037"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You clearly as you said it was intuitive but you it is such a commanding voice and such","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2472.277,2479.277"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a wonderful storytelling moment. But you've written one novel so far. 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How long did it take you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2712.128,2714.128"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, the first draft I probably wrote in a couple of months.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2715.128,2719.128"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then I spent a lot of time editing and revising on all my work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2720.128,2725.128"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it would have taken much longer after that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2726.128,2729.128"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, it's often said that in a particular era, I suspect these days it's not necessarily the same,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2730.128,2737.128"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that many Caribbean writers feel that they need to leave the Caribbean in order to become successful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2738.128,2746.128"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905#t=2747.128,2748.128"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115976/file/219905/transcript/78859/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there are Caribbean writers who never leave. 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