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Did you forget that the river will swallow us whole and rewind, redraw, redo, respond, repurpose, reclaim?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1238.39,1267.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in this piece, I visited, I went to the gauging station, very exciting building, and I just looked at it. You can't touch that or you get in trouble.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1268.39,1277.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I went online and went to the Environment and Climate Change Canada hydrometric database, free and open to the public. You can access data for rivers all over the country. 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All you need to know is in each of those years, that's the biggest flood, which is going to be in the spring flood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1324.39,1340.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so you can see 2013 is a huge one. 2005 was another flood in Calgary, much less than 2013, but it was still something that affected a lot of people. And then back in history, there's also some biggies. And then there's a few gaps in there where there's no data.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1340.39,1356.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sometimes that station isn't functioning. It didn't capture perfectly or there's a problem with the data. There's many reasons you could have a gap, but I wanted to preserve those in the poem. So I took this information, I created a factor mathematically that I then used to calculate how many characters of text would be in each line.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1356.39,1376.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I'm going to have one line for each year, and I make a factor to say how long is each line based on the data. We won't do math and calculations. This is supposed to be a fun talk here. But that's there if you have questions. And the whole method is in the paper, right? 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So if we flip it on its side, you can start to imagine this could look like a poem, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1396.39,1416.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we have those gaps in there where there's just data missing. It doesn't mean there was no flood. It just means we don't have information. And then we have our character lines. And so then I write the story. And then I made it all look like a nice river on the page. So that's what I read to you. And so in this way, I took the information from the database and then used it to make the structure, which became the poem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1416.39,1440.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then I took it a little bit further or tinkered around with it. There's currently an exhibit at the Central Library in Calgary. So if you get down there, you can go take a peek. And I have both that poem printed as a long poster, as well as a few variations, along with some other fine folks, visual poetry and text art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1440.39,1459.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I did an exercise where I painted over the lines. And this is actually really interesting, because I just wanted to do this for fun. And my intention here was that I would make some variations of this poem to sort of tease out the data and evoke that this comes from information to show people. So when someone's there looking at the exhibit without me giving them the backstory, they can sort of imagine that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1459.39,1483.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But while I was painting these, I had a really interesting experience. I would load the paintbrush with as much paint as I thought I would need to cover a line. And I would get really good at it as I was going, particularly in the places where the lines were all similar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1483.39,1499.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then when I got to a flood year, I did a terrible job of estimating how much paint I would need to paint the long line. And I forgot sort of what I needed to do early on by the time I got to 2013. And so for me, that was a really interesting manifestation of the uncertainty around we learn from what we've experienced.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1499.39,1520.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We learn from what we know and the data that we have, and then we try our best to prepare. However, there is a lot of uncertainty as well. And so we have to consider scenarios. And that's becoming even more dynamic with climate change, right, in terms of floods. So for me, it was really an interesting, almost acting out of that process. And so this is just a few snapshots of what's in the library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1521.39,1543.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so to wrap it all up and answer my own question, I don't know if I can answer my own question. But I think I tend to use the science as my warp, at least in these pieces where it's creating the framework or the structure that the poem then occupies. But then in other arts, I move away from that and I'm doing other things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1543.39,1563.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sometimes I start with the science as a warp, and then I think the project becomes something else entirely. So I want to say that it's a spectrum, but I think you can play with it and tinker with it no matter what your field. So with that, I will just say thank you to lots of folks who have helped me out and been my cheerleaders along the way. And perhaps just leave us with this nice image and we can have a chat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1563.39,1590.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1590.39,1712.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So for me, when I think about that, I feel it in my body as well. It's like a memory of these little details that will always stick with me related to the flood and what that means to me. And so I think when I interact with the poems, I get that bodily response in my own way. And then probably a reader is going to bring their own experiences to it as well, I think. I hope they will anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1741.39,1766.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think you succeeded. It was a thing that we all noticed and we all shared in. You also mentioned that the practice of applying the paint brought a surprise from you. I think artists tend to crave that moment where there's luck or serendipity, something that happens that you didn't really expect when you picked up the paintbrush. How do you find that feeling in science and the work that you do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1766.39,1795.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think intuition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1796.39,1797.39"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As a scientist and a researcher, the more I'm like, I need to trust my intuition on this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1797.72,1802.6"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm still using scientific method when I'm doing my research, but being open to knowing that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1802.6,1809.64"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have information that is signaling to me through other means.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1810.2,1815.64"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like for example, in the river, when I'm there and I can smell how it smells,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1815.64,1820.199"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm going to sort of get this in my measurements. I better go check this or I better go do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1820.199,1824.199"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Even though I'm following a method and a protocol, at the same time,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1824.68,1828.6"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm paying attention to much more than just what I'm measuring with that sensor,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1828.6,1832.519"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I'm trying to capture that. I think that's where the field poetry has really helped me in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1832.519,1837.4"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reflecting on my own research, is thinking about, rather than just getting my water sample and being","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1837.4,1844.039"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"head down around what I'm doing, really slowing down and paying attention to all of the other","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1844.039,1850.12"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"signals around me and looking for patterns. I think as humans, we're very good at recognizing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1850.12,1856.839"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"patterns. Even though I might be doing a statistical test or these things in the science","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1856.839,1862.76"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"world, a lot of times you can visually see the pattern, or you get a feeling, I better double","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1862.76,1869.88"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"check this, or I should. Oftentimes, there's a reason for that intuition that you might not know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1869.88,1874.919"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but you figure it out as you go, and so there's a trust there as well. 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That can be a hard thing to convince other people,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1885.639,1890.76"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like, you can't write that in your grant application, right? I don't know, but we'll find out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=1890.76,1894.44"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe we should be able to do that. 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For that one, my initial","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2055.16,2061.4"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thought when I was writing it was, I'm going to make this circle. I actually just drew the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2061.4,2065.4"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"circle in PowerPoint or something. I was like, I'm going to fill it in and I'm just going to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2065.4,2069.639"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stream consciousness, write a bunch of words that make the circle, and then I'm going to see","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2069.639,2076.6"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what happens. I'm going to just talk about ocean acidification. It really started as me","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2076.6,2082.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just info-dumping whatever I knew about this. I actually showed it to a colleague to be like,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2082.04,2087.799"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who knows more about biology than I do? I'm not a biologist. I was like, am I lying?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2087.799,2092.6"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so I got a little peer review check and fixed a few things and then fixed it all up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2092.6,2097.079"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then I thought, okay, now I want to break the circle down. 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So it's sort of like,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2147.32,2151.799"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how do you express those complex changes when you have many different things going on at the same","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2151.799,2156.679"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time? And I did want to leave that poem up to interpretation of people as well. So they could","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2156.679,2162.919"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"put their own meaning on what that circle means to them and how that decay looks. 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So I wanted it to be free and out there and easy to share.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2200.199,2206.12"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so there was some intention there as well in terms of audience and how to get it to people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2206.12,2212.199"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was a good decision because it ended up culminating in it going as far as it did because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2212.199,2218.199"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people could easily share and talk about it online. 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You know those articles are speaking to a specific group of people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2295.959,2300.919"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometimes they get picked up and they might be like popular news articles or different things","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2301.479,2305.959"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"written about them, but oftentimes that's not the scientist writing, that will be a journalist","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2305.959,2309.959"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coming in or someone else helping to write about it. 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Like scientists are so creative and I have a geology background and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2380.04,2384.36"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"geologists are always making wonderful art things, maps and cross sections and sketches and look at","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2384.36,2390.28"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their field notebooks and so it's inherently beautiful. 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One of the things that I struggle with in my research is the inability of these","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2419.4,2424.519"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"representations that I'm looking at to sort of actually elicit any form of real ecological","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2424.519,2429.72"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"engagement with these beings. And I think one of the questions that I struggle with is like the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2429.72,2433.72"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"issue of temporality because for example in terms of acidification and more specifically coral reefs","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378#t=2433.72,2438.6"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209378/transcript/78931/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which are one of the organisms that are suffering because of this phenomenon. 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There's a sense of urgency there, but it is kind of in tension with the whispering and the soft voice that becomes more prominent in the end of the poem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209366#t=2699.868,2709.868"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/108186/file/209366/transcript/78926/annotation/740","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so I know that the reading series that we're putting on right now invites some folks who identify as activists also into the 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