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today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668#t=22.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668/transcript/82512/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNicole:\u003c/strong\u003e My name is Nicole Brandsma and on behalf of the Centre for Literatures in Canada and director Sarah Krotz, who unfortunately could not be here today, I'd like to welcome you all to today's reading and conversation event featuring dub and spoken word poet Lillian Allen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668#t=26.0,44.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668/transcript/82512/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eNicole:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a privilege to gather here today on Treaty 6 territory and Districts 9 and 10 of the Métis Nation of Alberta, where many Indigenous peoples, stories, and languages have converged since time 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trailblazer, arts worker, community activist of great significance who is ignoring me right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668#t=172.0,194.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668/transcript/82512/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMichael:\u003c/strong\u003e So I'm going to repeat so that she hears.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668#t=194.0,199.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668/transcript/82512/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMichael:\u003c/strong\u003e is a guest of really a trailblazer, arts 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to demonstrate the power of violated syntax to disrupt the imposed colonial language, to twist it out of shape, and to interrogate long-held assumptions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668#t=297.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668/transcript/82512/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMichael:\u003c/strong\u003e In addition, I continue to meditate on Lillian's play with what Fanwell and Twee calls the black sonic archives of dub poetry, inhabiting and mixing multiple soundscapes into an intermedial poetic 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Right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668#t=1452.0,1452.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668/transcript/82512/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLillian:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, look at this audience, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668#t=1452.0,1455.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/152334/file/280668/transcript/82512/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMichael:\u003c/strong\u003e 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