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Thank you so much for joining us today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=102.0,106.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Don't forget to unmute yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=110.0,112.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, I was just telling you about how awkward it is that I'm grabbing my headphones from inside of my shirt like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=112.0,117.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There we go. I have the tendency to accidentally unplug myself if they're not tucked in like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=117.0,125.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, Sarah and Austin and the CLC and everyone who's attending.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=126.0,133.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What a wonderful showing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=133.0,136.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At this point in the pandemic, to have 30-some people show up at a virtual event is practically a super spreader event,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=136.0,148.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if this were in person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=148.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So well done for coming out, everyone. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=150.0,153.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I really appreciate this opportunity to use the CLC's platform to talk about my writing and to talk about this book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=153.0,164.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I'm going to read from it for about 20 minutes, 15-20 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Fascinating. 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them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1746.01,1753.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seemed like a no-brainer, but Nafia had underestimated the grip of Catholicism that Catholicism had on Mexicans","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1753.01,1761.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and overestimated their romance for more Spain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1761.01,1764.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll leave it at that. That brings us kind of back to Mexico.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1764.01,1768.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1769.01,1770.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you so much, Omar, for that really, really rich reading.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1773.01,1777.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have lots of time for questions and conversation, and I'll just let you all know that if you have a question to ask,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1777.01,1788.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you can go down to that reactions icon at the bottom of your screen, the little happy face,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1788.01,1794.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and if you click on it, you can raise your hand, and we'll see you, either Austin or I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1794.01,1800.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We'll see that and call on you to ask a question, or you're welcome to compose your questions in the chat. And I see one already from Michael Fair.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1800.02,1813.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, Omar. Thank you. And I thank you, Omar, and I've read the whole book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1813.02,1820.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's absolutely fascinating and very enlightening that I wonder if you want to say a few words about the Toronto and and the congregation there, which is the other one that is probably the most unusual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1820.02,1833.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, yeah, I will.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1833.02,1835.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I was debating which one to read from today, because those are those are the two that fascinate probably the most.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1835.02,1842.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Excuse me. So, um, so in in Toronto, actually all over in 10 cities of North America, because it has actually branched out to become more of a movement than a singular mosque.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1842.02,1855.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was an organization called the Unity Mosque Juma Circle, and it is co-founded by partially co-founded by by a gay couple, one of which is the Imam, and they have shaped this mosque to be a radically inclusive LGBTQ and women led mosque.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1855.02,1880.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's quite profound. It was it was started, like I said, for as sort of a radically inclusive mosque.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1880.02,1888.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What it has evolved into, however, is a important piece of infrastructure or service for Toronto's refugee community, asylum community, asylum seekers who are fleeing countries because of persecution because of their sexual orientation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1888.02,1910.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So some of them actually chose to come to Toronto because of Unity Mosque, but most of them did not know it existed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1910.02,1920.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it just so happens that they come to Toronto and they learn through the various LGBTQ services, social services, that, you know, that there is this mosque here for Muslim people who are gay and deserve, you know, are entitled to spiritual services, just like anyone else, but may not be able to receive the full services,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1920.02,1947.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"may not be able to be completely open and honest with, say, an Imam or a faith leader or a counsellor within Islamic Centre because they would fear being outed, further persecuted, you know, and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1947.02,1963.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So Unity Mosque is quite an astounding, quite a wonderful place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1963.02,1969.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is, it's, it doesn't have a fixed address. It's actually quite discreet. It roves from location to location, depending on the week. And this is all for the protection of the congregants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1969.02,1984.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What I found personally, what I, what I was most moved by was the fact that in the radical inclusion, they also make room for Jewish people, non-Muslim people and atheists like myself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=1984.02,2002.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, I may not believe in God, but I am someone who has spiritual needs, who, you know, who does always try to find meaning in life, in every, you know, in every tragedy or in every opportunity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2002.02,2021.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, you know, before writing this book and before, maybe even before coming to Unity Mosque, I was under the impression that, you know, Muslim identity, though very diverse and rich, was kind of a binary. You either are a believer and you're Muslim or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2022.02,2039.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so what Unity Mosque showed me was that there is a place in the Muslim community for people like myself who cherish, embrace Muslim, you know, aspects of Muslim culture, Muslim ethics, values, but may not be true believers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2039.02,2056.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in a way, it is, you know, this concept exists within Jewish communities. Everyone's heard of the cultural Jew or the secular Jew or, you know, Buddhist Quakers or, you know, this exists in other religious communities, but it doesn't really, you know, in earnest exist in Muslim communities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2056.02,2078.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what I found in Unity Mosque is that it can. It doesn't have to necessarily be that way, that there is, you know, a place for people like myself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2078.02,2089.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. Wonderful book, by the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2089.02,2093.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. Thank you for reading it. Thank you for saying so. It was a great question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2093.02,2098.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I see a finger going up, which I think means a hand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2098.02,2102.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2102.02,2104.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you hear me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2104.02,2105.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, it's nice to see you again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2105.02,2106.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I must say that, unfortunately, I had to sleep, but otherwise I would have finished your book. It's not only fascinating, it's groundbreaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2106.02,2117.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm only halfway through. And I knew for sure that it would ask you. I have only about 27 questions, but I will ask those later. But I found that you were so enlightening explaining by doing this pilgrimage to various mosques all over the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2118.02,2137.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Islam religion is very different from what we think. Now, I speak as an ex-Calvinist, an agnostic person. So this is just up my alley. This is just what I needed for my own understanding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2138.02,2151.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I am now saying one quick thing. You describe the Black Muslims as an example so well. You explain, you are critical at the same time, and you explain why groups of people, especially people who are marginalized, seek something that will lift them up and that will give them a new life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2151.02,2175.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I knew quite a bit about the Black Muslims. It was part of my earlier master's thesis in my previous life, decades ago. But you added a lot. And you know, your life will never be the same if you don't read this book. And I can see this book is groundbreaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2176.02,2194.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And therefore it should become, you know, the essence of it should go into the curriculum that our children need to learn. Fantastic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2194.02,2203.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Very precocious children at that. But I do hope that it, you know, it reaches those gifted children. Thank you. And I assume that what maybe what had surprised you the most about the Black Muslims was the more science, is that correct?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2203.02,2222.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the, the, the more Americans who are Black Muslims, but they reject the concept of blackness, they are sort of, they are, it is a Black empowerment movement, also being Black denialism. And instead, they, you know, they hold on to the concept of being Moorish or Moors, this ancient society that has not existed for hundreds of years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2223.02,2245.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is how they identify. And is that that is their way of giving themselves ancestral glory. And, and giving themselves the sort of ancestral story that we are all entitled to have, but as descendants of slaves was taken away from them, they, you know, there's no way for them to know what is their cultural ancestry. And so they have created one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2246.02,2273.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I just enjoyed it. And I call that earlier made the dream geography and geographical dream that many small groups of people who are really rejected in their own society and if it doesn't work in the United States, while we go somewhere else, and somewhere in the world, there is their own homeland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2274.02,2294.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I really think groundbreaking. That's what your work is. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2294.02,2299.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's very kind of you to say thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2299.02,2301.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I see Shariq with the hand up. I hope I pronounced it right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2303.02,2306.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's Shariq.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2306.02,2307.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Shariq.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2307.02,2308.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You've made that mistake before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2308.02,2309.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thanks Omar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2309.02,2311.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So yes, I've been going through the book myself as well as I've been traveling. And one of the things that I found fascinating was the breadth and I think that's by design of what you've written the breadth of the different types of Muslim communities and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2311.02,2327.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their independent but semi connected journey with Islam.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2327.02,2333.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wanted to ask about how in kind of in as a counter to that as well in the Sunni Muslim community, it feels like there's this desire by the main schools of thought to create a very two dimensional straight on what Islam and Muslim identity is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2333.02,2352.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How has the response or kind of both in yourself and your journey through learning about these different communities, but also probably as the book has been released, probably responses from people who are of that kind of more militant description of Muslim identity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2352.02,2367.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How has that been going for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2367.02,2370.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I knew I was writing a polarizing book, both amongst non-Muslims and Muslims. I knew that, you know, amongst non-Muslims you're going to have, you know, you're going to have a wing of people on the far right who are just so convinced that Islam is an existential threat that they will see this as some fluffy propaganda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2370.02,2394.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I've seen, you know, they say don't read the comments, but I read the comments. I've seen that. And then I think on the other side of it, there's also going to be, you know, a wing of, you know, very leftist people who don't, you know, who maybe don't appreciate my sort of centrist, you know, my moderate views, my sort of intentional walking of the central line.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2395.02,2421.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think within Muslim communities, it's even more polarizing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2421.02,2425.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However, so like so far, the whatever backlash, whatever, you know, negative reviews or comments I've seen from Muslim people themselves, to the best of my knowledge, it's actually coming from the more moderate and progressive wing, which I did not expect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2426.02,2450.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I don't, I don't know what to make of that. It might just be because they maybe tend to be more, maybe they tend to be more educated or they tend to, you know, seek out a book like this or aren't like just repelled by the whole concept of it to begin with, and therefore pick it up and then find things in it that they don't, that they don't like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2451.02,2472.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, and, and, you know, chief, chief among those things, I think, is, I guess, giving some, giving, giving, being critical of some moderate and liberal, I don't want to say the movements themselves, but aspects of them, specifically, I'm talking about the Ismaili Muslim movement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2472.02,2501.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Communities, you know, led by the Aga Khan, which is sort of seen as the most liberal Islam.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2503.02,2509.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it certainly is. But, you know, that doesn't mean that if you're that if you're the most progressive doesn't mean there is not any more to go in terms of being more progressive or rather, there's no more, there isn't more to go in terms of like,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2510.02,2527.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I guess,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2528.02,2529.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"appreciating, you know, human rights or appreciating marginalized groups.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2531.02,2538.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2539.02,2540.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I, but I do I do suspect that eventually it will, you know, I will hear from the other side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2541.02,2549.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Sunni Islam is the, you know, the vast majority of Muslim people identify as Sunnis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2550.02,2560.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"80, 85%, something like that. It's massive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2561.02,2564.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And since the 1970s, and especially the 1980s, there has been a multi multi billion dollar propaganda campaign, largely funded by Saudi Arabia and and other sort of wealthy oil wealthy Gulf Gulf nations to purify Islam to make it, you know, to homogenize it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2565.02,2591.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To, and to homogenize it in this image of Sunni Islam that is actually very, very rigid, very black and white.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2592.02,2600.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, as much as I would like to think that this fundamentalism does not have much sway outside of those regions, it actually does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2601.02,2612.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It has a lot of sway, and it has created a lot of conflicts everywhere in the world. And those conflicts play out in mosques, in Sunni mosques, everywhere, all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2613.02,2627.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Less so these days, but in the 90s and 80s and 70s, probably generations of Muslim people have left their faith as a result of feeling just, you know, unwelcomed within the sort of rigid changes that were being made.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2628.02,2643.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The worst example of this, or I shouldn't say the worst, but maybe the most concerning example of this would actually be in Trinidad, which has the oldest Muslim congregations in the West, going back, you know, 170, some mosques are about 170 years old.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2644.02,2660.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, Muslim people there, Indo-Caribbean people there, they are fifth generation, you know, at this point. So you would think if there's a community that has, you know, liberalized or is most, you know, secular, it's going to be them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2661.02,2683.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or if you think that if there's a community, a Muslim community that has been able to successfully, you know, shape their Islam, their mosque into something that uniquely fits them, you'd think it was going to be them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2683.02,2699.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But actually, it's the complete opposite, because I think because of the sort of ancestral severance from their South Asian homelands has always, it's created a bit of a psychological, almost like inferiority complex as Muslims.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2699.03,2717.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like they are not true Muslims because they don't really have much of a, you know, much of a, you know, strong connection to the Muslim majority countries that they, their ancestors came from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2717.03,2730.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a feeling that, you know, a lot of the practices that we have here in Trinidad are not pure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2730.03,2737.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They have been, you know, they've been sort of poisoned by Hindu, you know, culture or something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2737.03,2746.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so anyway, there's just this deep seated pull toward what looks like authentic Islam to them and what they've unfortunately done for decades now is sort of offloaded the authority to, you know, mullahs and scholars from the East, primarily from Pakistan,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2746.03,2770.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who also happen to have this extremely rigid black and white view. And it has trickled down to the point where even the most like progressive, what should be the, what I was told were the most progressive mosques in Trinidad are showing signs of having, of perpetuating ultra Orthodox views.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2771.03,2790.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ultra Orthodox Islam or any religion is not bad within itself. It's just, you know, there are pacifists and there are, you know, there are radicals within all of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2791.03,2805.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But what it has done is set this is sort of created almost like a primer for in the last, you know, six years or so, ISIS recruits in the Caribbean to pluck young men, mostly young men, but pluck people from Trinidad who have already a black and white view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2806.03,2830.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And all they have to do is just sort of add this one more thought that it is okay to kill unbelievers and that in fact, you are at war with unbelievers, come with us, we'll get you to Syria.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2830.03,2843.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"250, about 250 Trinidadians have left to the Islamic State. It doesn't sound like much, but actually it is. That's more than Canada and the US combined. That's about one in 450 Muslims in Trinidad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2844.03,2860.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, yeah, that's, I mean, that is, that's not how you're, I don't know if that was your question. I went somewhere else with it. But, you know, I guess I just, I kind of want to give people the full scope of the good and the bad that religion can, that religion can sometimes, can come of religion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2861.03,2884.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, yeah, it is, it's a dominant force. And I guess when I hear from them, I'll let you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2885.03,2893.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe I'll get your help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2895.03,2896.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. We have time for one more question from Suzanne.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2898.03,2901.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm in the middle of your book too and I'm really, really enjoying it. Thank you. I work in interfaith activities and relationship building.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2901.03,2912.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm, your book documents, a lot of interfaith strife, but I feel like we're at a point, at least in Canada, maybe, maybe in Edmonton, where I think interfaith dialogue can make, can make room for a lot of, a lot of, can make space for, for people to eke out their own understanding and their own","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2913.03,2940.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"relationship to their faith tradition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2941.03,2943.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I, but I'm just wondering if you have any advice for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2944.03,2947.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, tell me again about what, what you do and as specifically as you can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2949.03,2955.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, so I'm part of the Mennonite tradition and we started a Common Word Alberta. And for the last eight years we've done dialoguing between Muslims and Christians, and we've tried to bring Sunni and Shia together in common spaces and Mennonites and Catholics and everybody else together in common spaces.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2956.03,2977.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we do it through, through themes like compassion or, and then presenters very briefly present, and then there's table discussions. That's what we have evolved, which has been a very powerful tool for people recognizing commonality, I suppose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2978.03,2998.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in the context of Islamophobia, especially, I just feel like we got to get better about sharing our faith together and, and, and I'm just wondering if you have some insights from your experience in creating this book that could maybe push us along.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=2999.03,3017.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3017.03,3018.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3022.03,3023.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"focus on, I think a focus on history is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3024.03,3029.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"important to cultivating tolerance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3030.03,3034.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, it is, it is the reason why I put this focus on my book. I think that, you know, maybe sometimes we put too much emphasis on people's beliefs or the scripture and the gospel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3036.03,3050.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's all very esoteric. And the truth is everyone, every individual has their own interpretation of the beliefs. But what is, you know, less abstract is the history of different communities. And I think that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3051.03,3065.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"knowing the history of, of, you know, racialized or minority communities of immigrant communities,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3067.03,3075.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"knowing that history makes it harder to be intolerant, to be fearful of those communities because it's hard to, it's hard to be afraid of what you know, what you understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3076.03,3090.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, I mean, I don't know how much that relates to what you do, but I think that it's important that Edmontonians, Albertans know more about the Jewish, Muslim,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3091.03,3106.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Filipino history, like whatever, whatever, you know, ancestral or whatever heritage, whatever heritage that is, I guess, a part of this, this province's story or fabric.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3106.03,3125.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think it always helps to understand that. As far as, you know, interfaith and getting representatives from Muslim communities to the table with representatives of other religious groups, I would, I would assume, and you can correct me on this, but I would assume that these days, it's not, it's not so hard that I think that there is a certain amount of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3126.03,3151.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"maturity and mutual appreciation amongst faith leaders that, you know, that they're willing to collaborate with each other. Maybe I'm, I'm wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3151.03,3163.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What I, I guess what I would, maybe some advice I'd give is to not, not always rely on representatives from the most prominent Muslim communities here in Edmonton, that would be, you know, the Al Rashid. Al Rashid is an amazing mosque, the Edmonton Islamic Society, I believe it's called, or Canadian Islamic Society, is an incredible organization, very, very important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3163.03,3192.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They have a very robust, incredible history and all that. But they do tend to get, you know, they do tend to take up quite a bit of space. And I think that it would be great to see some Shia or, and amongst the Shia, of course, there's, there's different branches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3193.03,3213.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"get a little bit more prominence in the city. Ahmadi Muslims, there is a Uyghur community here that definitely deserves to be heard. There's a, there's a Uyghur mosque, actually just mere blocks from the Al Rashid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3214.03,3233.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this is a rather new community and quite incredible, actually, because there is a, there's a Uyghur exile in government or government in exile.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3234.03,3245.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And both the president and vice president of the Uyghur government in exile are Edmontonians, right? And very few people know this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3245.03,3256.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Very few people know this. Because I think that there is, you know, when someone wants their, their comment, or perspective, a Muslim perspective, they just tend to go to the first Google search result. And I just think that it's worth going to like going further down in the Google results for that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3256.03,3277.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3279.03,3280.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Omar, do you have time for one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3281.03,3283.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3283.03,3284.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, all the time in the world for this. Are you kidding me? Join me in the breakout room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3284.03,3288.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right, Celeste.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3289.03,3290.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right. This is a very quick question. CBC series had a show from Saskatchewan called Little Mosque on the Prairie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3291.03,3300.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3300.03,3301.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thought that was quite nice. I can't remember when it came out. 10 years ago now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3302.03,3307.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, maybe even a little bit longer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3307.03,3309.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Longer. So I thought that it was good to kind of show a side of Muslims that perhaps a lot of people didn't know. So I'd like to have your feedback as to what you thought about it. Did it help show some people who might have been prejudiced against Muslims that religion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3309.03,3331.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think it did. I think it did its part. So Zarka Nawaz is the creator of that, a wonderful, you know, talent, who also just announced that she has a novel coming out. She's a Renaissance woman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3332.03,3349.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She created this sitcom, Little Mosque on the Prairie on CBC. I think it was around 2007, 2008.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3350.03,3358.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, obviously it had a very obvious objective of, I think, countering a lot of the negative stories about Muslim people with a lighthearted sitcom that, you know, largely painted them in a very positive way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3359.03,3379.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Showed that, you know, small towns everywhere have, you know, vital Muslim communities, neighbors who are pillars of their communities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3380.03,3389.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that there's nothing to be afraid of. It did, you know, it wasn't afraid of getting into some of the cultural, you know, the challenges, the conflicts that arise from cultural differences in any immigrant community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3390.03,3405.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But especially a immigrant community with a minority faith. But of course, you know, Little Mosque on the Prairie was, it was a sitcom, right? Like it, you know, played up things for laugh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3406.03,3420.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's not exactly the depiction of, you know, of realism and, you know, the characters are there to entertain first and foremost.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3421.03,3430.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think works of art like Little Mosque and TLC's All American Muslim, they have their place. They are important to countering those narratives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3431.03,3442.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I also think it's important that there are shows like Rami, which is a new show on Hulu.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3443.03,3449.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, I'd like to think, you know, books like mine or novels like Hala Alyan's beautiful book, The Arsonist City, that give, I think, more of a balance as to the, you know, the positive and negative things that can come about from, you know, religious or cultural communities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3450.03,3474.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The positive and negative of the challenges that diaspora communities often have to grapple with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3475.03,3483.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, there's an earlier version of my book at the conception stage that is very, very much a celebration of Muslim culture and the contributions it's made to Western society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3484.03,3498.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That changed pretty quickly. It probably changed once I went to Trinidad and saw that, no, like, I need to, we need to be kind of real about this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3498.03,3508.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, yeah, anyway, that's my commentary on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3509.03,3514.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, and you're right. I think there's room for all types, like the comedy and drama as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3515.03,3521.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But what I did like about Little Mosque on the Prairie is that they did show, you know, one who had converted, another one who was born into it. And then, of course, a young rebel that's questioning. So, you know, it was kind of good to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3522.03,3536.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, did she convert or did she revert? That is, I see Shariq laughing there because he might be the only person who gets this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3537.03,3545.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Muslim converts, they've stopped using, mostly they've stopped using the term convert. Rather, they use revert, which is based on, as I was reading earlier, this idea of al-Fitr, this idea that everyone is born a Muslim, they just may not know it yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3546.03,3565.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It comes from, you know, there's some good intention in it with the whole revert thing. It's this idea that, you know, I didn't convert to it. I just kind of been reacquainted with it, that I am no less Muslim than you are just because I converted, because there can be a lot of sort of pompousness that's imposed on them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3566.03,3587.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On the other hand, though, and this is, I love to do the other hand, it is a very problematic, it is a very problematic concept because it suggests now that non-Muslims are not Muslims.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3587.03,3599.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People need to be reverted. And that's, that's sort of what you find in southern Mexico, amongst the indigenous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3599.04,3608.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did my computer just turn off? My monitor certainly did. Can people still hear me? Yeah, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3608.04,3614.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sorry, I think I hadn't touched my mouse in a while. So anyway, yeah, anyway, I just wanted to give a little bit of trivia there on convert versus revert.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3614.04,3625.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Shah Rukh appreciated it. Thank you. I also found it very passive aggressive, that concept when growing up with it back in the UAE, they're like, oh, we're all the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3625.04,3634.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They're just lost and we're found. And I'm like, yeah, super great. No. Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3634.04,3641.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I heard when I was in Trinidad, my, my historical guide, great person, very intelligent, knows his stuff, but is also, you know, he's also an orthodox Muslim, I would say,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3641.04,3654.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"judging from his beliefs. And he was like, the history of Islam, people think it starts with the indentured Indians.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3654.04,3661.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I was like, it doesn't. It starts with the enslaved Africans. He was like, yes, but even before them, I was like, oh, tell me more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3661.04,3670.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, and then he started to explain to me how, you know, indigenous, indigenous Americans, at some point were Muslim and must have become unacquainted with their Islamic beliefs, or must have been, you know, had the opportunity to embrace Islam, but rejected it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3670.04,3693.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because, according to his interpretation, we are all, we all started as Muslims. And it was our parents who made us non-Muslims. So that's when it when it starts to feel a little icky for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3694.04,3706.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just so that we don't end on an icky note.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3709.04,3711.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Why not? Life is icky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3712.04,3714.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wondered if you could conclude by saying a bit more about what it was like for you to weave in this memoir, you know, your own personal story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3715.04,3724.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3724.04,3725.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, and how, you know, researching, encountering, writing about these community, these communities that you visited and worked with, you know, how did that change you? What's the relationship between the individual and the collective story in this book?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3725.04,3740.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, I think that a very stupid friend of mine described it as a letter to my family, which in I didn't think it was until he said that. And in a way, it is, it is sort of a, it is sort of a journal, you know, written over the course of about three years of my own, you know, an interrogation of my own spiritual beliefs, and in a way, sort of a, you know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3741.04,3769.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a spiritual discovery for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3769.04,3773.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, I don't, I don't discuss it so much until the very end of the book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3774.04,3781.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, you know, shortly before I started writing, I was in a bit of a spiritual crisis, myself had gone through, you know, just a lot of troubles in, in my family, in my marriage, in amongst friends, I was just, you know, I was sort of in a, in a bad place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3781.04,3802.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, I think this is, you know, this is that moment where people start to look for meaning in life, and just need to give everything some meaning so that it's not all for spite, all for nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3803.04,3817.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And through writing this book, I think I came, I, I earned, or I gained a lot of peace. And I think I, I was able to find maybe a feeling of, of divinity in, in the world, a sense of divinity in my life without accepting a simplistic,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3817.04,3846.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"simplified idea of a creator, and how we got here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3846.04,3851.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, thank you. Thank you so much for sharing this really remarkable and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3854.04,3859.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thank you for the opportunity to share it means a lot to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3859.04,3862.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such an important book. And thanks to Lit Fest too, and to all of you who tuned in today. And thank you all for this really, really fascinating conversation too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3862.04,3876.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, have a wonderful day, everybody and take care, Omar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3878.04,3882.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bye everyone. Have a great day. Thanks for coming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668#t=3883.04,3885.04"}]},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86396/file/174668/transcript/78872/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/078/872/original/whisper_transcript_2025-04-25_16_34_39_-0500.vtt?1745616879","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/078/872/original/whisper_transcript_2025-04-25_16_34_39_-0500.vtt?1745616879"}]}]}]}