{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/cj87h1g53r/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Le risque, la douleur, la résistance : rencontre avec quatre femmes poètes"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/128/original/UA_Logo_WHT_RGB_%281%29.png?1725471982","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Brossard, Nicole (Contributor)","Courville, Vanessa (Contributor)","Dupré, Louise (Contributor)","Gagnon, Evelyne (Contributor)","Dolce, Nicoletta (Host)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2022-12-01 (issued)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publisher"]},"value":{"en":["Centre for Literatures in Canada","Centre de littératures au Canada"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eQuatre femmes se rencontrent au cœur de la poésie. Dans un ici/maintenant planétaire, leurs voix s'interrogent sur la fragilité et le courage d'être au monde. \u003cbr\u003ePoète, romancière, essayiste, Nicole Brossard est née à Montréal. Depuis 1965, elle a publié plus de quarante livres dont Le désert mauve, Installations et Musée de l’os et de l’eau; la plupart d’entre eux sont traduits en plusieurs langues. Ses écrits ont influencé toute une génération. Elle est aussi cofondatrice de la revue littéraire La Barre du Jour, du journal féministe Les Têtes de Pioche, co-auteure de l’Anthologie de la poésie des femmes au Québec et du film Some American Feminists. Elle a fait partie du collectif de la pièce La nef des sorcières. Elle est lauréate de plusieurs prix littéraires dont deux fois le prix du Gouverneur général (1974, 1984), le prix Athanase-David (1991), le Prix Molson du Conseil des Arts du Canada (2007) et le Prix international de littérature française Benjamin Fondane, ainsi que Prix Griffin 2019 pour l’ensemble de son œuvre. Elle est membre de l’Académie des Lettres du Québec depuis 1991, officière de l’Ordre du Canada, chevalière de l’Ordre national du Québec et compagne de l’Ordre des arts et des lettres du Québec. Parmi ses plus récents livres, on trouve Ne touchez pas au crépuscule (Les lieux dits Éditions, collection 2Rives, Strasbourg, 2020), L’ongle le vernis (accompagné d’œuvres de Symon Henry, 2022), Temps qui installe les miroirs (accompagné d’œuvres de Martha Townsend, 2015) et Musée de l’os et de l’eau (1999] 2008, Grand Prix du Festival international de la poésie de Trois-Rivières et finaliste au Prix du Gouverneur général). De plus, Gérald Gaudet a fait paraître des entretiens réalisés avec la poète, Nicole Brossard. L’enthousiasme, une résistance qui dure (2019).\u003cbr\u003eNée en 1990 à Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Vanessa Courville est détentrice d’un doctorat en création littéraire de l’Université de Sherbrooke, où elle a également enseigné à titre de chargée de cours. Elle poursuit une réflexion sur la hantise dans l’acte d’écriture. Lors des dernières années, elle a publié de nombreux textes dans des revues, des collectifs et des recueils de nouvelles, en plus d’avoir dirigé certains ouvrages. Avec Les Miraculeuses, elle fait paraître son premier livre de poésie. Vanessa Courville vit actuellement à Sherbrooke et enseigne la littérature au collégial. Les miraculeuses (2021) est son premier recueil.\u003cbr\u003eNicoletta Dolce enseigne la littérature et la culture italiennes au Département de Langues et Littératures du Monde et au Centre de langues de l’Université de Montréal. Chercheure en poésie francophone, elle poursuit, dans une perspective transculturelle, une réflexion sur les aléas de la mémoire, sur la question du témoignage et sur le féminicide. Elle a publié des essais et des articles dans divers collectifs au Canada et à l’étranger. Son livre, La porosité au monde. L’écriture de l’intime chez Louise Warren et Paul Chamberland (Nota bene), a été finaliste au prix Gabrielle-Roy 2012. En 2019, Nicoletta Dolce a remporté le prix d’excellence en enseignement de l’Université de Montréal. \u003cbr\u003eLouise Dupré est poète, romancière, dramaturge, essayiste et membre de l’Académie des lettres du Québec. Elle a publié une vingtaine de titres, qui lui ont mérité de nombreuses distinctions. Vivement intéressée par la multidisciplinarité, Louise Dupré collabore régulièrement avec des artistes d’autres disciplines : cinéastes et vidéastes, metteurs en scène, chorégraphes, compositeurs et artistes visuels. Plusieurs de ses livres ont été traduits dans d’autres langues. Elle a préparé des anthologies poétiques et consacré de nombreux articles à la poésie québécoise. Elle a notamment publié Tout près (2021 [1998]), Une écharde sous ton ongle (2004, finaliste au Prix du Gouverneur général), Noir déjà (1993, Grand Prix du Festival international de la poésie de Trois-Rivières). Son dernier recueil, Exercices de joie, clôt un triptyque, réunissant Plus haut que les flammes (2010; Grand prix Québecor du Festival international de la Poésie, Prix du Gouverneur général et Prix de poésie Gatien-Lapointe/Jaime-Sabines – et finaliste au prix Estuaire-Bistrot Leméac, au Grand prix de la Ville de Montréal et au Prix des lecteurs du Marché de la poésie de Montréal) et La main hantée (2016; Prix du Gouverneur général et Prix Vénus Khoury-Ghata) autour des possibilités du poétique face à l’horreur et à la détresse. \u003cbr\u003ePoète et essayiste, Evelyne Gagnon vit à Edmonton, où elle est professeure en études littéraires à l’Université d’Athabasca. Spécialiste de la poésie, elle s’intéresse aussi aux formes de la mélancolie contemporaine et, notamment, à ses liens avec l’éco-anxiété et avec l’écoféminisme. Chercheuse affiliée au CLC, elle a fondé, en 2014, le Concours de poésie du Centre de littératures au Canada, ouvert chaque année depuis aux étudiants universitaires albertains. Ayant publié des études sur la poésie dans plusieurs ouvrages scientifiques au Canada, aux États-Unis et en France, Evelyne Gagnon a également reçu, en 2001, le Prix de poésie Clément-Marchand. Son recueil de poèmes, Incidents (et autres rumeurs du siècle), est paru aux Éditions du Noroît, à Montréal, en 2022.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["French","Français"]}},{"label":{"en":["Relation"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/r/zp3vt1j852\"\u003eMartine Delvaux Lecture et Conversation avec Evelyne Gagnon\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Roundtable","Table ronde"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/?language=en\"\u003eIn Copyright\u003c/a\u003e. 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Ses \u0026eacute;crits ont influenc\u0026eacute; toute une g\u0026eacute;n\u0026eacute;ration. Elle est aussi cofondatrice de la revue litt\u0026eacute;raire La Barre du Jour, du journal f\u0026eacute;ministe Les T\u0026ecirc;tes de Pioche, co-auteure de l\u0026rsquo;Anthologie de la po\u0026eacute;sie des femmes au Qu\u0026eacute;bec et du film Some American Feminists. Elle a fait partie du collectif de la pi\u0026egrave;ce La nef des sorci\u0026egrave;res. Elle est laur\u0026eacute;ate de plusieurs prix litt\u0026eacute;raires dont deux fois le prix du Gouverneur g\u0026eacute;n\u0026eacute;ral (1974, 1984), le prix Athanase-David (1991), le Prix Molson du Conseil des Arts du Canada (2007) et le Prix international de litt\u0026eacute;rature fran\u0026ccedil;aise Benjamin Fondane, ainsi que Prix Griffin 2019 pour l\u0026rsquo;ensemble de son \u0026oelig;uvre. Elle est membre de l\u0026rsquo;Acad\u0026eacute;mie des Lettres du Qu\u0026eacute;bec depuis 1991, offici\u0026egrave;re de l\u0026rsquo;Ordre du Canada, chevali\u0026egrave;re de l\u0026rsquo;Ordre national du Qu\u0026eacute;bec et compagne de l\u0026rsquo;Ordre des arts et des lettres du Qu\u0026eacute;bec. Parmi ses plus r\u0026eacute;cents livres, on trouve Ne touchez pas au cr\u0026eacute;puscule (Les lieux dits \u0026Eacute;ditions, collection 2Rives, Strasbourg, 2020), L\u0026rsquo;ongle le vernis (accompagn\u0026eacute; d\u0026rsquo;\u0026oelig;uvres de Symon Henry, 2022), Temps qui installe les miroirs (accompagn\u0026eacute; d\u0026rsquo;\u0026oelig;uvres de Martha Townsend, 2015) et Mus\u0026eacute;e de l\u0026rsquo;os et de l\u0026rsquo;eau (1999] 2008, Grand Prix du Festival international de la po\u0026eacute;sie de Trois-Rivi\u0026egrave;res et finaliste au Prix du Gouverneur g\u0026eacute;n\u0026eacute;ral). De plus, G\u0026eacute;rald Gaudet a fait para\u0026icirc;tre des entretiens r\u0026eacute;alis\u0026eacute;s avec la po\u0026egrave;te, Nicole Brossard. L\u0026rsquo;enthousiasme, une r\u0026eacute;sistance qui dure (2019).\u003cbr /\u003eN\u0026eacute;e en 1990 \u0026agrave; Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Vanessa Courville est d\u0026eacute;tentrice d\u0026rsquo;un doctorat en cr\u0026eacute;ation litt\u0026eacute;raire de l\u0026rsquo;Universit\u0026eacute; de Sherbrooke, o\u0026ugrave; elle a \u0026eacute;galement enseign\u0026eacute; \u0026agrave; titre de charg\u0026eacute;e de cours. Elle poursuit une r\u0026eacute;flexion sur la hantise dans l\u0026rsquo;acte d\u0026rsquo;\u0026eacute;criture. Lors des derni\u0026egrave;res ann\u0026eacute;es, elle a publi\u0026eacute; de nombreux textes dans des revues, des collectifs et des recueils de nouvelles, en plus d\u0026rsquo;avoir dirig\u0026eacute; certains ouvrages. Avec Les Miraculeuses, elle fait para\u0026icirc;tre son premier livre de po\u0026eacute;sie. Vanessa Courville vit actuellement \u0026agrave; Sherbrooke et enseigne la litt\u0026eacute;rature au coll\u0026eacute;gial. Les miraculeuses (2021) est son premier recueil.\u003cbr /\u003eNicoletta Dolce enseigne la litt\u0026eacute;rature et la culture italiennes au D\u0026eacute;partement de Langues et Litt\u0026eacute;ratures du Monde et au Centre de langues de l\u0026rsquo;Universit\u0026eacute; de Montr\u0026eacute;al. Chercheure en po\u0026eacute;sie francophone, elle poursuit, dans une perspective transculturelle, une r\u0026eacute;flexion sur les al\u0026eacute;as de la m\u0026eacute;moire, sur la question du t\u0026eacute;moignage et sur le f\u0026eacute;minicide. Elle a publi\u0026eacute; des essais et des articles dans divers collectifs au Canada et \u0026agrave; l\u0026rsquo;\u0026eacute;tranger. Son livre, La porosit\u0026eacute; au monde. L\u0026rsquo;\u0026eacute;criture de l\u0026rsquo;intime chez Louise Warren et Paul Chamberland (Nota bene), a \u0026eacute;t\u0026eacute; finaliste au prix Gabrielle-Roy 2012. En 2019, Nicoletta Dolce a remport\u0026eacute; le prix d\u0026rsquo;excellence en enseignement de l\u0026rsquo;Universit\u0026eacute; de Montr\u0026eacute;al. \u003cbr /\u003eLouise Dupr\u0026eacute; est po\u0026egrave;te, romanci\u0026egrave;re, dramaturge, essayiste et membre de l\u0026rsquo;Acad\u0026eacute;mie des lettres du Qu\u0026eacute;bec. Elle a publi\u0026eacute; une vingtaine de titres, qui lui ont m\u0026eacute;rit\u0026eacute; de nombreuses distinctions. Vivement int\u0026eacute;ress\u0026eacute;e par la multidisciplinarit\u0026eacute;, Louise Dupr\u0026eacute; collabore r\u0026eacute;guli\u0026egrave;rement avec des artistes d\u0026rsquo;autres disciplines : cin\u0026eacute;astes et vid\u0026eacute;astes, metteurs en sc\u0026egrave;ne, chor\u0026eacute;graphes, compositeurs et artistes visuels. 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Son dernier recueil, Exercices de joie, cl\u0026ocirc;t un triptyque, r\u0026eacute;unissant Plus haut que les flammes (2010; Grand prix Qu\u0026eacute;becor du Festival international de la Po\u0026eacute;sie, Prix du Gouverneur g\u0026eacute;n\u0026eacute;ral et Prix de po\u0026eacute;sie Gatien-Lapointe/Jaime-Sabines \u0026ndash; et finaliste au prix Estuaire-Bistrot Lem\u0026eacute;ac, au Grand prix de la Ville de Montr\u0026eacute;al et au Prix des lecteurs du March\u0026eacute; de la po\u0026eacute;sie de Montr\u0026eacute;al) et La main hant\u0026eacute;e (2016; Prix du Gouverneur g\u0026eacute;n\u0026eacute;ral et Prix V\u0026eacute;nus Khoury-Ghata) autour des possibilit\u0026eacute;s du po\u0026eacute;tique face \u0026agrave; l\u0026rsquo;horreur et \u0026agrave; la d\u0026eacute;tresse. \u003cbr /\u003ePo\u0026egrave;te et essayiste, Evelyne Gagnon vit \u0026agrave; Edmonton, o\u0026ugrave; elle est professeure en \u0026eacute;tudes litt\u0026eacute;raires \u0026agrave; l\u0026rsquo;Universit\u0026eacute; d\u0026rsquo;Athabasca. 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Je dirais l'espoir. Il me semble que c'est déjà beaucoup à travers ce livre-là.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=934.01,940.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et on le voit d'ailleurs dans la section finale, c'est vraiment un manifeste lorsque le sujet lyrique incarne le nous, le nous des survivantes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=940.01,951.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Au début de la part, la difficulté à penser c'est le nous-là et 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peut-être?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=1846.02,1849.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/502","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oui, je réfléchis. Tout ça, c'est tellement agréable. En fait, aussi, il y a un autre point qui m'intéresse beaucoup dans cette question de la joie dont tu traites Louise, c'est cette idée de se responsabiliser soi-même. La joie se cultive, il faut en fait s'exercer à la faire naître, et donc, il faut faire sa gymnastique d'espérance pour y arriver.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=1849.02,1876.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tout ça, c'est un mouvement que l'on sent très bien dans ton écriture, mais que l'on sent aussi dans l'écriture de la poésie de façon générale. Donc, quand on parle d'inquiétude, de difficulté ou de vulnérabilité, l'idée même de tendre vers une forme d'apaisement ou de joie devient vraiment une force créatrice aussi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=1876.02,1902.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc, s'accepter tel qu'on est, puis aussi tendre vers cette espérance-là. Plus on en génère, plus on peut en partager aussi. Même si ce sont de toutes petites éclaircies au cœur d'une pénombre qui est très grande.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=1902.02,1922.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et d'ailleurs, la pénombre dans Incidents, c'est-à-dire, c'est un recueil magnifique, c'est un recueil qui nous cherche vraiment dans tous les affreux du monde, la civilisation, cette aussi préoccupation de l'écologie, cette préoccupation de la société hypertechnique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=1922.02,1945.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/506","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et donc, je lisais, je le trouvais magnifique, mais en même temps, je disais, mais il n'y a pas d'espoir, il n'y a pas d'espoir. Il y a à toute fin, il y a de l'espoir et c'est magnifique. Voilà. Mais il faut attendre.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=1945.02,1962.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/507","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il faut s'accrocher, il faut s'accrocher. Dans ce que tu dis vraiment, et ce que tu viens de dire, on le trouve vraiment dans ton écriture. À la fin, il y a cet espoir. Nous, j'attends ton deuxième recueil. C'est très joyeux.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=1962.02,1978.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est-à-dire qu'on est quand même dans une conception occidentale de la douleur et de la joie, parce qu'en Orient, le concept de douleur et de joie n'est pas du tout le même. Il est possible de faire disparaître cette douleur-là complètement dans ces philosophies-là. Et pour moi, c'est bien aussi de faire circuler les savoirs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=1978.02,1997.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/509","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors, il y a une troisième question. Dans vos plus récents recueils, il y a des figures féminines, des figures de femmes, des figures de femmes qui se profilent. Et il y a des figures qui ont frappé. Donc, je les cite comme ça, comme l'image des sœurs, sœurs abyssales, dans l'icône Broussard, des sœurs abyssales.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=1997.02,2024.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/510","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ça m'a beaucoup frappé.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2024.02,2027.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/511","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ou un tu féminin qui reçoit d'autres femmes. Vraiment, il y a ce verbe recevoir qui devient presque une archive mais vivante, un palanceste, qui s'insurge à la fin pour donner chair et corps aux survivantes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2054.02,2079.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/512","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc, nous sommes là, cette dernière section de ton recueil. Donc, qui sont ces figures féminines, ces figures de femmes qui traversent votre dernier recueil?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2080.02,2092.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/513","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nicolas, pourquoi tu me regardes comme ça? Je m'effraie. Qu'est-ce qui se passe?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2093.02,2102.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/514","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On a délégué ça à Nicolas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2107.02,2109.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/515","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il y a des figures visuelles, habituelles des femmes. Il y a la figure de l'être abîmé, colonisé, vonté, exploité.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2110.02,2124.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"L'abyssale, le mot abyssale, est certainement en lien avec ça, avec ce destin programmé par les religions et par la politique, par le patriarcat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2124.02,2139.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais je ne sais pas comment aller plus loin. Parce qu'il y a déjà une image, une réflexion qui s'est faite. Des modifications, bien sûr, en cours de route sociologique, etc.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2139.02,2158.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais c'est difficile pour moi de penser les femmes sans avoir une femme qui va représenter toutes les autres femmes et à travers laquelle je vais pouvoir développer un F majuscule, etc.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2158.02,2176.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et c'est toujours celle sur laquelle on peut projeter ce qu'il y a de meilleur en soi. Ça, je l'ai souvent dit. Si chaque femme pouvait projeter sur les autres femmes le meilleur de ce qu'elle est, qu'elle soit athlète, poète, peu importe, c'est essentiel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2176.02,2195.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pour avoir un dialogue, premièrement, puis après pour avoir une solidarité. Parce que les femmes ont été séparées les unes des autres par un système qui a été très efficace et qui est mis en question, mais pour une période très courte de l'histoire, 60 ans, 70 ans, c'est absolument rien.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2195.02,2215.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est un renouveau qui est plein de promesses parce qu'il y a beaucoup de choses que l'on dit encore, mais sur lesquelles il faudrait réfléchir encore beaucoup, beaucoup plus longuement, tout simplement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2215.02,2230.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ça doit faire longtemps que je ne suis pas sortie, parce que c'est très intéressant. Vos questions sont vraiment très intéressantes parce qu'elles nous plongent dans l'écriture elle-même. Et moi, je l'ai écrite, ce recueil-là, mais c'est promis, les phrases seront faciles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2230.02,2251.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Les cailloux, normaux. Pourquoi s'assombrir? Pourquoi se concentrer? Tête inclinée, vertige, dernier balcon, en vol. Le mot en vol, il est pernicieux parce qu'il peut arriver dans toutes les directions aussi. Donc, c'est ça.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2251.02,2266.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il y a aussi un dessus, le sujet lyrique s'adresse à ce dessus, à cette soeur. Est-ce bien la projection de ton meilleur de toi? Ma soeur?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2266.02,2290.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Non, la soeur fictive. La soeur actante dans le recueil.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2290.02,2297.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et il y a mon animal-là.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2297.02,2299.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/527","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est ça, il y a l'animal aussi qui est magnifique. C'est une féminisation. C'est cet animal-là.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2299.02,2305.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/528","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bien, c'est celle qui est totale, en fait, dans son instinct, dans sa réalité, dans son instinct, dans son partage, dans le filon, le fil qui nous lit. J'avais envie d'un animal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2305.02,2326.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/529","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oui, on en a besoin. Parce que ça entre aussi dans la catégorie, dans le besoin de nommer, mais de nommer par un autre monde, celle par qui tout peut arriver, celle qui nous intéresse, au singulier et au pluriel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2327.02,2348.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/530","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est toujours, ces termes-là sont des termes d'exploration aussi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2348.02,2355.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/531","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Merci. Les filles?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2355.02,2360.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/532","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"J'aimerais faire un lien avec le recueil de Vanessa, en fait, parce que cette force-là du féminin qu'on ressent dans l'écriture de Nicole, mais qu'elle a du coup exploité, moi j'ai trouvé ça remarquable en fait.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2361.02,2376.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/533","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cette espèce de mythologie du féminin, mais qui devient une force, qui devient une avancée, qui devient une sorte de reprise du pouvoir, ou de demande de reprise du pouvoir, en tout cas, je ne sais pas comment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2376.02,2390.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/534","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Le féminin, il est partout. Il est là dans le tissage avec les citations aussi. Je vais intervenir des questions qui viennent des propres réflexions de Louise Dupré, donc c'est vraiment un tissage à travers le recueil de poésie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2391.02,2402.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/535","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais l'énonciatrice, elle est profondément divisée. Elle a une espèce de vide ancestral à l'intérieur du ventre qui fait que ce n'est plus trop d'où elle vient, qui vient de l'enfant perdu en fait, mais elle ne sait pas à quelle communauté elle appartient.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2402.02,2414.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/536","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elle cherche un nous, puis Virginia Woolf disait, je cherche des grands-mères en littérature, mais je vois juste des grands-pères.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2414.02,2421.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/537","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et par contre, c'est ça en littérature, retourner vers les mythes. C'est là qu'elle puisait une force.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2421.02,2429.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/538","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Puis ça a été le réflexe de cette énonciatrice-là, c'est-à-dire de retourner vers l'élite, qui est un mythe quand même assez fort, qui est cette femme qui est née égale d'Adam,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2429.02,2438.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/539","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"condamnée en enfer à donner droit de vie ou de mort sur les femmes. Donc elle part de ce mythe-là, mais ça n'empêche que ça reste un mythe masculin, puis ça montre quand même l'ambulance d'où il naît.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2438.02,2448.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/540","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc elle va le déplacer vers la Miraculeuse, qui n'est pas ce mythe où toutes les générations vont s'y identifier, ce mythe qui va rejoindre tout le monde, mais c'est son mythe personnel, son mythe intime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2448.02,2458.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/541","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"La Miraculeuse, c'est cette figure, c'est une morte vivante, quand elle apparaît dans l'Écriture, qui revient la hanter, qui la traverse, comme on disait tout à l'heure, mais qui est aussi une guide pour elle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2458.02,2468.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/542","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et bon, elle lui pose des questions, mais c'est elle, c'est ce mythe intime-là qui va lui céder une horde vivante.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2468.02,2474.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/543","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc elle, c'est la Miraculeuse, s'éclipse tranquillement dans l'Écriture, puis lui laisse une plein de filles, une panoplie d'enfants de qui elle s'occupe, qu'elle va devoir rendre vers la lumière.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2474.02,2484.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est grâce à ces filles-là qu'elle va réussir à créer une espèce d'espace sacré au cohabité, mais tout est féminin, oui.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2484.02,2492.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/545","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et puis c'est un choix, aussi, pour cette ligne-là.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2492.02,2496.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/546","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais il y a aussi une chose qui m'a beaucoup frappée, l'inchipite, dans le début du poème, c'est le tu, parce que c'est un tu humain, qui nousse, qui regarde son cadavre.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2496.02,2508.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/547","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oui, tout à fait.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2508.02,2509.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/548","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est comme ça, ça commence comme ça.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2509.02,2510.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/549","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Le tu qui regarde son cadavre.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2510.02,2512.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/550","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Je ne suis pas toujours comme ça, là.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2512.02,2514.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/551","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais c'était bon, mais c'était bon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2516.02,2518.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elle s'église dans la tombe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2522.02,2524.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oui, c'est ça.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2524.02,2525.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/554","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oui, parce qu'elle s'église dans la tombe, puis elle cherche le sens profondément.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2525.02,2530.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/555","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Quand on est divisé, puis qu'on n'a pas trouvé ce qui crée la souffrance, elle cherche le sens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2530.02,2536.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/556","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Puis elle va vers cette morte-là qui la traverse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2536.02,2540.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/557","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et les rôles s'inversent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2540.02,2541.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Les rôles s'inversent, tout à fait.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2541.02,2542.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/559","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc, des fois, il y a une ambiguïté à savoir qui est finalement cette miraculeuse et qui est finalement la morte et la vivante.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2542.02,2549.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/560","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oui, c'est là, l'ambivalence dans les postures.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2549.02,2553.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tout à fait.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2553.02,2554.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oui.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2557.02,2558.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bon, alors, je vais sortir mes 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l'énonciation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2570.02,2582.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Celle qui parle, celle qui se parle aussi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2582.02,2585.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/567","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et le dessus est ambiguï, justement, pour permettre de parler à l'autre, mais de se parler 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l'avenir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2634.02,2641.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et l'avenir du monde qu'elle laissera à d'autres, d'autres femmes qui le prendront en charge","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2641.02,2651.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"et qui cherchent sa place, dans le fond, parmi toutes ces autres femmes-là.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2651.02,2656.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors, cette protagoniste-là, c'est un sujet qui se cherche, qui s'interroge,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2656.02,2666.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"qui essaie de voir qui il est, ou on pourrait dire qui elle est,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2666.02,2672.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"comment va-t-elle moins apporter des réponses que se poser des questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2672.02,2683.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Quelles questions doit-elle se 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monde?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2688.02,2699.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Comment se placer dans ce monde?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2699.02,2701.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/587","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pour essayer de vivre elle-même, de dépasser la survie, de vivre, mais de, je dirais pas","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2701.03,2712.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/588","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"d'inculquer, c'est pas le terme, mais de transmettre aussi une qualité de vie à son","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2712.03,2722.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/589","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"entourage. Et c'est une femme qui est responsable, qui se sent responsable, oui, de, qui se sent","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2722.03,2740.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/590","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"responsable de sa fille, de ses descendants, et pas seulement de sa fille, parce qu'il y a des","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2740.03,2747.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/591","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hommes aussi là-dedans, dans le texte. Donc, c'est vraiment une, mais qui reçoit aussi des autres,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2747.03,2756.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"qui reçoit, qui se met pas non plus en position de dire, ah, voilà ce que vous pouvez faire, au contraire,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2756.03,2763.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mais qui reçoit aussi des autres, des hommes qui lui apprennent à vivre aussi. Elle essaie de trouver","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2763.03,2774.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"une place qui lui permet de trouver des îlots de joie, des îlots de joie. Je sais pas si c'est clair ou...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2774.03,2788.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et donc cette quête est souvent dans un état de déambulation, comme les femmes de Nicole, c'est-à-dire cet état de déambulation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2788.03,2796.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"où on marche, où on bouge, dans le recueil, donc comme peut-être aussi quête mystique d'une certaine 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t'appelle!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2869.03,2874.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tu l'as mentionné, Nicole-Éta, les figures féminines sont très morcelées dans l'écriture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2874.03,2884.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il y a une section qui s'intitule Tomber au féminin pluriel,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2884.03,2889.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"et je pense que j'ai écrit cette section-là pour moi-même quand j'étais adolescente,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2889.03,2896.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"à mes grands-mères, aux filles de mes amies,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2896.03,2901.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mais aussi en pensant à celles et ceux qui rencontrent dans leur vie toutes sortes de violences,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2901.03,2909.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"des petites violences ordinaires, des grandes violences aussi,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2909.03,2913.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"et qui vont chercher à les traverser, persister,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2913.03,2917.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"et qui vont aussi chercher à rencontrer des âmes solidaires qui vont les aider à se reconstruire, en 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Voilà.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2986.03,2988.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors là, on va faire un autre exercice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=2990.03,2993.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors, en fait, 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magnifique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3084.03,3085.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est beau, hein?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3085.03,3086.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/656","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est beau, oui, c'est 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maladie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3098.03,3107.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/659","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elle touche le corps toujours, presque toujours en direct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3107.03,3110.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/660","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elle vient avec le rejet, l'humiliation, mais sans le temps de s'habituer au 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Est-ce qu'elles ont les outils, etc.?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3130.03,3133.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/665","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Puis c'est un peu ce qu'on s'est donné comme instrument, comme outil.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3133.03,3136.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/666","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais au cœur de cette fragilité, probablement que se tiennent toutes nos ressources aussi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3136.03,3143.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/667","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et si on n'y touche jamais, on ne touche pas tout à fait comme il nous faut à nos propres ressources,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3143.03,3151.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/668","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"à nos croyances aussi, nos certitudes, disons, parce qu'on en a quelques-unes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3151.03,3156.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/669","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et la fragilité permet de donner un nouveau sens aussi à la vie d'une manière plus générale,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3157.03,3165.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/670","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"de renouveler le sens en général aussi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3165.03,3168.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/671","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et c'est très intéressant parce que j'ai immédiatement pensé au mot pouvoir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3170.03,3175.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/672","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Qu'est-ce que fait le 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d'humanité.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3183.03,3187.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/675","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est véritablement la fragilité qui permet le déploiement de l'humanité.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3187.03,3196.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/676","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"En fait, c'est ce qu'on appelle notre humanité, c'est 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intacte.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3216.03,3219.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/681","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est être blessé, comme on l'a dit, par différentes circonstances.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3219.03,3222.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/682","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Quand il y a une blessure, il y a une ouverture, que ce soit volontairement, malgré soi,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3222.03,3225.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/683","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"puis c'est ça qui permet de faire traverser l'humanité, ou lui tendre une main aussi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3225.03,3229.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/684","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc, ça m'a beaucoup touchée, ce verre-là.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3229.03,3232.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/685","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Je trouve ça exact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3233.03,3236.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/686","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pendant que Nicole parlait, quand tu disais, Nicole, le pouvoir n'apporte pas d'humanité,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3236.03,3244.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/687","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"je pense qu'on le voit tous les jours, avec les dictateurs de différents pays,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3244.03,3252.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/688","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on le voit dans le monde du travail, on le voit partout.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3252.03,3256.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/689","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Effectivement, il n'y a que la fragilité qui soit porteuse de renouvellement et de possibilité d'être.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3256.03,3268.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/690","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et effectivement, c'est un très beau 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humaniser.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3283.03,3292.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/693","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et je me disais aussi, la poésie est un lieu privilégié pour nous rappeler ces choses-là essentielles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3292.03,3305.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/694","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nous rappeler qu'au-delà de la société de performance et de pouvoir dans laquelle on vit,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3305.03,3311.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/695","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"toutes ces fragilités-là sont des vecteurs de rencontres, de vraies rencontres entre nos humanités communes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3311.03,3322.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/696","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Est-ce que je peux ajouter quelque chose?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3324.03,3325.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/697","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bien sûr.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3325.03,3326.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/698","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Je crois que tu voyais aussi dans ton recueil, Evelyne, tout ce travail-là que tu faisais contre le pouvoir,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3326.03,3332.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/699","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"contre la performance. J'ai l'impression que ton recueil est comme un travail constant de résistance contre le pouvoir","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3332.03,3343.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/700","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"et un appel à la fragilité, ou à quoi nommer le pouvoir en ouvrant, justement, des possibilités de fragilité.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3343.03,3350.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/701","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Merci, c'est magnifique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3350.03,3354.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/702","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et très juste, c'est très juste.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3354.03,3357.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/703","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oui, je pense qu'il y a beaucoup de, à part cette frustration aussi de cette idée-là de vouloir, non pas dénoncer,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3357.03,3366.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/704","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mais nommer pour résister et justement ouvrir vers l'essentiel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3366.03,3375.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/705","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est-à-dire, tu parlais de questions tantôt, de modalités interrogatives dans les recueils.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3375.03,3382.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/706","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il n'y en a pas beaucoup dans mon recueil, mais je pense que les questions qui sont implicites à travers le recueil,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3382.03,3389.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/707","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"c'est à quoi devrions-nous porter davantage attention?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3389.03,3394.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/708","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"De quoi devrions-nous davantage prendre soin?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3394.03,3398.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/709","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et je pense qu'à travers ces éléments-là de peut-être critiquer le pouvoir, ce qui émerge, c'est ça.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3398.03,3406.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/710","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"De quoi devrions-nous prendre davantage soin?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3406.03,3409.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/711","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il y a ça, prendre soin, et il y a aussi un autre mot qui revient d'un autre discussion, la responsabilité.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3409.03,3417.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/712","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors j'y vais, c'est ma mise, je ne dis pas ce que je veux dire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3417.03,3420.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/713","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"J'y vais avec une autre, c'est les miraculeuses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3420.03,3423.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/714","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et la question est, qu'est-ce qui t'effraie?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3423.03,3427.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/715","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3427.03,3430.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/716","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors, qu'est-ce qui t'effraie?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3430.03,3438.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/717","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Attends, t'as changé de personnage!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3438.03,3441.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/718","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Si tu veux répondre, qui veut répondre à qu'est-ce qui t'effraie?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3441.03,3447.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est répété aussi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3447.03,3449.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/720","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oui, c'est répété.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3449.03,3451.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/721","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Qu'est-ce qui t'effraie?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3451.03,3453.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/722","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elle cherche à tenir plusieurs peurs pour se rendre compte, au final, que la grande peur sous-jacente à tout ça, c'est celle de mourir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3453.03,3459.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/723","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc, une fois qu'elle en prend conscience, elle apprend à vivre avec tout ça.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3459.03,3464.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/724","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais la question, parce que des fois, dans le grand recueil, il y a des questions qui sont soulevées, c'est très dialogique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3464.03,3469.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/725","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il y a un moment où elle est vraiment en dialogue avec la miraculeuse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3469.03,3473.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/726","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est un espace en gris, c'est presque théâtral, donc la question, elle est partout dans le livre.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3473.03,3477.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/727","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Des fois, elle pose des questions à la miraculeuse, la miraculeuse lui répond.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3477.03,3481.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/728","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Des fois, elle soulève des fausses questions, comme quand elle dit, est-ce que certains hommes pensent encore que les femmes se scubent dans le marbre?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3481.03,3487.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/729","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et des fois, il y a des questions qui sont soulevées comme ça et qui sont en suspens, comme celle-là.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3488.03,3494.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/730","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc, des fois, il y a une réponse, des fois, il n'y a pas de 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questions-là.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3498.03,3501.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/733","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il y a tout un passage dans l'entretien de Blanchot, sur la question,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3501.03,3506.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"où il dit que justement, quand le silence se glisse dans la parole, ça lui enlève sa peur d'affirmation et de négation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3506.03,3512.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est l'espace de la poésie qui va accueillir cette question-là et la seule réponse, en fait,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3512.03,3517.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/736","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ça va être l'instant où le poème s'écrit qui va répondre à cette question-là.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3517.03,3521.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/737","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc, des fois, les questions sont soulevées comme ça, puis elles sont renvoyées après au néant, d'où elles ont émergé.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3521.03,3527.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/738","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais aussi, au niveau typographique, cette section, il y a beaucoup de gris typographique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3527.03,3532.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/739","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc, il y a des questions, et après, tac, un gros gris, ce n'est pas blanc typographique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3532.03,3536.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/740","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Non, non, c'est vraiment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3536.03,3538.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/741","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mesdames, est-ce que vous aimeriez éventuellement répondre à cette question?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3539.03,3544.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/742","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On passe à la suivante.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3544.03,3546.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/743","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"À la suivante.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3546.03,3548.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/744","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Passo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3548.03,3550.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/745","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il t'a déjà répondu.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3550.03,3552.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/746","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Qu'est-ce qui vous effraie Nicole?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3556.03,3558.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/747","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Évidemment, sans doute la mort, comme tout être humain, mais fondamentalement, c'est le sens et le non-sens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3558.03,3572.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/748","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est quand le sens nous échappe totalement à cause des mensonges, à cause des énoncés truqués.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3572.03,3584.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/749","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Parce que la vérité peut nous échapper quand c'est nous qui la rendons ludique, comme en poésie aussi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3584.03,3594.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/750","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais c'est quand le sens nous échappe totalement et échappe aussi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3594.03,3600.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/751","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"En dommage, en fait, les citoyennes et les citoyens et notre pensée, tout ce qui endommage notre potentiel virtuel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3600.04,3610.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/752","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Évidemment, on a besoin de manger, de s'habiliter, mais tout ce qui endommage notre besoin de pensée, de beauté, c'est le tragique, c'est ce qui fait peur.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3610.04,3623.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/753","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et bien sûr, ça touche inévitablement à la liberté en tant que telle. La liberté dont nous avons joui, dont nous jouissons encore, dont on jouit encore,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3623.04,3637.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/754","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on n'a pas idée de ce que ça peut signifier cette perte-là, ne serait-ce que d'être ici ensemble sans savoir que ce sera dangereux de sortir dans le vaste monde après notre table ronde.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3637.04,3651.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/755","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et c'est banal de penser à une chose comme ça ici. Et pourtant, c'est ce qui se produit dans plusieurs pays. Donc, combien de mots censurés à la table ronde,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3651.04,3663.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/756","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"au cas où quelqu'un entendrait une lutte contre un dictateur, etc., ce sont tous des éléments qui, sans doute, nous frôlent dans le quotidien à travers l'actualité.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3663.04,3677.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/757","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais, c'est ça, on est encore vivant en santé et assez privilégié de manière à, tout à l'heure, on a parlé de tant qu'on n'est pas touché.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3677.04,3689.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/758","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'était une citation de Louise que j'ai oubliée au tout début. Vous avez cité, tu as cité, c'est tant que le corps n'est pas touché ou tant qu'on n'est pas touché.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3689.04,3702.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/759","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Si on n'est pas touché par la douleur, en fait, on n'est pas qu'à ressentir nos émotions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3702.04,3707.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/760","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Voilà, voilà, exactement. Il y a les émotions qui viennent de la peur et les émotions qui viennent de la censure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3707.04,3722.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/761","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Moi, je vais peut-être continuer dans ce sens-là aussi. Je dirais que dans mes derniers recueils, l'effroi, parce que ça va jusque-là, en tout cas dans la main hantée,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3723.04,3735.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/762","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"c'est justement la violence qui est faite avec les mains. Et ça m'effraie au plus haut sens, au plus haut point, et en ce sens-là,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3735.04,3752.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/763","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"toute mon écriture a été, dans mes derniers recueils, une tentative d'essayer de désamorcer cet effroi-là. Je parle même pas de peur, je parle d'effroi, vraiment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3752.04,3769.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/764","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc, si on parle du Birkenaud, des nazis, bon, mais évidemment, comme disait Nicole, il y en a encore aujourd'hui, ce n'est pas terminé.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3769.04,3779.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/765","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Si on voit les petites violences, si on voit les viols, si on voit ce qui s'est passé, en tout cas, l'empêchement de l'avortement par la Cour suprême des États-Unis,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3779.04,3797.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/766","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"cette violence-là qui est faite à l'individu, et tout particulièrement les femmes, me met dans un état d'effroi épouvantable. Et l'écriture lutte contre ça, justement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3797.04,3811.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/767","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et c'est toute la question de l'exercice de joie, mais comment trouver des idées de joie dans un monde où on est constamment devant la violence quotidienne, la violence qui vient de partout, tout en même temps.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3811.04,3828.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/768","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et qu'on est presque insensibilisés dans le sens, l'essai dont je vous parlais, le fils d'Eichmann, de Günther Anders, donc lui, il est considéré le penseur des catastrophes à répétition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3828.04,3842.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/769","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc en fait, le penseur des catastrophes à répétition, on est constamment exposé à ces catastrophes à répétition. Je ne dis pas qu'on s'habitue pas, mais il y en a qui sont complètement insensibilisés.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3842.04,3858.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/770","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est le danger, justement, si on ne ressent pas la douleur. Mais si on ressent trop la douleur, à l'inverse, bien là, on risque justement, nous, que les plombs sautent. Oui, effectivement, parce qu'on peut supporter, on peut s'insensibiliser, ou on peut carrément devenir fou, devenir folle en voyant le monde actuel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3858.04,3885.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/771","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et essayer de trouver, justement, la juste distance qui permet de vivre avec cette douleur-là, sans être insensible, mais sans non plus entrer trop dedans.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3885.04,3900.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/772","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est toute la question, je ne veux pas commenter parce que ce n'est pas le sujet, mais toute la question de l'empathie. Jusqu'où l'empathie? Quand est-ce que le sujet se met en danger et risque d'y laisser sa peau?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3900.04,3917.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/773","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Je sens ça aussi dans le livre d'Évelyne, à certains moments, dans la forme, la désarticulation de la forme.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3918.04,3929.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/774","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"J'aimerais ça revenir à une image que j'ai dans les premiers temps des conversations féministes ouvertes pour la conscience féministe. Et puis, on se demandait, mais comment se peut-il que les femmes ne prennent pas conscience de ce qui arrive aux autres femmes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3930.04,3948.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/775","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y compris chacune qui posait la question aussi. Et en fait, je pense que la violence faite aux femmes est tellement impensable que si elle nous apparaissait en un seul portrait, une seule image, une seule prise de conscience globale, ce serait presque, ça nous jetterait à terre pour toujours.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3948.04,3971.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/776","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est un peu de cet équilibre pour parler, pour analyser le patriarcat, pour faire des revendications. C'est sans doute cette distance qu'il faut avoir parce que ce serait insupportable. C'est énorme, c'est énorme.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3971.04,3988.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/777","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et je me souviens, je raconte la chose, c'était à la rencontre des écrivains, alors qu'il y avait très peu de femmes à ce moment-là, et les gens avaient parlé de l'holocauste. Et il y a quelqu'un, et moi j'avais parlé des femmes, du féminisme, et il y a quelqu'un qui m'avait demandé, mais est-ce que vous pensez que ce qui arrive aux femmes, c'est aussi grave que l'holocauste?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=3988.04,4014.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/778","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et j'avais répondu oui, j'avais répondu oui. Mais évidemment nos preuves sont invisibles, nos preuves sont invisibles, elles sont dans le quotidien, elles sont dans le lit, etc. Elles sont avec des amis, etc. Nos preuves sont invisibles, elles sont tissées dans les cultures qui sont les nôtres, quelles que soient les cultures.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4014.04,4037.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/779","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et c'est ça, c'est cet effroi-là, pour l'éviter, on ne peut pas s'y plonger entièrement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4037.04,4048.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/780","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"En fait, qu'est-ce qu'on fait de notre douleur? Qu'est-ce qu'on fait de notre effroi? Et c'est toute la question que pose l'écriture, chacune à sa façon, à travailler avec cet effroi-là pour, je dirais, le rendre ajoutable, supportable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4048.04,4075.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/781","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Parce que sinon, sinon on se soucie. Parlons des vrais mots, on ne peut pas...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4075.04,4084.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/782","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"L'écriture est une solution à la vie. Et là on discute de la vie, l'écriture, etc. L'écriture est une solution pour passer le temps de la vie dans l'être, si je peux dire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4084.04,4097.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/783","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais le bonheur, le plaisir de l'écriture, c'est justement, c'est de comprendre les processus qui nous mènent vers ceci ou vers cela. Mais le seul fait d'y penser, d'énoncer un certain nombre de mots, fait qu'il y a déjà un petit bonheur qui apparaît au moment même de l'écriture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4097.04,4117.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/784","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et du sens aussi apparaît. Et du sens nouveau, oui. Parce que ça, il faut qu'il y ait souvent une reconfiguration. D'ailleurs, c'est notre bonheur dans un poème, c'est qu'on reconfigure un certain nombre de mots et on injecte une nouvelle dimension à ces mots et à d'autres mots qu'on oblige à accompagner les mots les plus familiers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4117.04,4143.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/785","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Si on avait trouvé tellement de bonheur, on n'écrivait plus non plus. Donc j'aspire à ne plus écrire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4144.04,4149.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/786","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tu sais, Nicole, quand tu disais que si on pouvait trouver une seule image qui pouvait représenter toutes les souffrances des femmes, on pourrait nous jeter au sol. Moi, ça fait six ans que je travaille sur le féminicide en Italie et je veux travailler sur le féminicide ici.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4150.04,4170.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/787","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Quand je pose des questions à des poètes, à des écrivaines, pourquoi vous ne travaillez pas, pourquoi on n'ouvre pas cette piste sur le féminicide, on me regarde avec des grands yeux et il n'y a pas de réponse. C'est encore un mot à vous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4170.04,4183.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/788","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc il y a encore cette peur du terme en tant que tel. Donc la peur du terme fait en sorte qu'on ne se lance même pas dans cette quête, dans cette recherche. Le féminicide, ce n'est pas que la mort de la femme en tant que tel, mais il y a tout ce qui précède.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4184.04,4199.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/789","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc la violence constante, comme utiliser la violence dans le livre. La misogynie, le sexisme ordinaire, la culture en tant que tel, c'est remettre en question toute la culture, une grande part de notre culture, de nos gestes, de nos comportements, les plus simples, les plus familiers, les plus excessifs aussi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4199.04,4218.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/790","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oui. Mais ça, c'est quand on essaie de trouver, de nuancer certains mots comme la misogynie qui fait ceci, le sexisme ordinaire qui fait cela, c'est un travail différent, le phallocentrisme qui fait un autre travail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4218.04,4234.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/791","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tout, de toute façon, pour créer un écart énorme entre les hommes et les femmes. Parce que si on pense qu'ils sont à peu près égaux, le patriarcat c'est chargé de rendre les hommes supérieurs et de leur donner le privilège de tous les pouvoirs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4234.04,4254.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/792","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et puis en plus, on laisse même pas les femmes au stade où elles pouvaient être déségales, en plus on les descend. Alors on crée un écart énorme, impossible à surmonter pour certaines cultures, parce que c'est la vie sociale, la vie en tant que tel qui serait toute remise en question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4254.04,4275.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/793","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Remise en question complète, totale.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4275.04,4280.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/794","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oui. Nous, on a remis une partie de la vie en question, mais les technologies sont venues en même temps se mêler. Pour quelqu'un de ma génération, je dirais que comme au Québec, tout est allé très vite, donc on n'a jamais pu connaître un peu notre histoire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4280.04,4296.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/795","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On en sait un peu, mais je dirais que tout est allé très vite. Et pour les femmes, les technologies sont venues prendre la parole à leur place. Prendre la parole et contrôler les comportements, et modifier les comportements.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4296.04,4311.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/796","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais ce ne sont pas les femmes qui les ont modifiées, c'est que leur parole est arrivée en même temps qu'un certain nombre de technologies. Et on n'a pas nécessairement trouvé tout l'espace qu'on voulait, qu'on espérait trouver.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4311.04,4329.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/797","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Est-ce que vous voulez ajouter autre chose? On passe doucement, très doucement à la conclusion. Belle conclusion. Vous voulez ajouter autre chose? Il y a plein de choses. On pourrait dormir ici et faire la même chose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4329.04,4345.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/798","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donc, la dernière question qu'on a posée, c'est, je cite deux vers d'Evelyne, donc je ferai comme ça pour montrer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4345.04,4355.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/799","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Si ce matin, l'éternité échoue, si une catastrophe se tient au seuil de la porte, quel serait le message que vous livreriez aux survivantes? Un an poème, votre dernier.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4355.04,4377.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/800","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Un an de poème.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4378.04,4381.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/801","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et si tu veux, ne pas nécessairement léguer ce message dans le poème, mais moi je pensais au dernier poème, le dernier poème qu'on puisse laisser aux survivants, ou si tu veux un message, sans que ce soit nécessairement lié à un poème.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4381.04,4398.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/802","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"J'ai toujours un regard très doux, mais c'est une douceur.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4399.04,4406.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/803","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est un message dont je réfléchis en même temps. Je regarde en réfléchissant. Alors, je vais me lancer. Oui. C'est parce qu'effectivement, c'est le mot message pour moi qui était plus étranger à ma pratique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4406.04,4427.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/804","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Je pense que la poésie, tel que je la vois, ne passe pas de message, mais c'est un acte par lequel je veux prendre le lecteur ou la lectrice dans mes bras.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4428.04,4446.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/805","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Peut-être pas le bercer, mais c'est un geste de partage. C'est comme une caresse. C'est comme une façon de lui dire, je suis là et je suis avec toi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4446.04,4469.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/806","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors, je vais lire un poème qui va peut-être dans ce sens-là.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4469.04,4473.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/807","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est très doux.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4499.04,4500.04"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/808","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il y avait un message, c'est de dire, je pense que la poésie permet une respiration,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4500.05,4528.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/809","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"s'il s'agit de compréhension, c'est pas une compréhension par l'intérêt, c'est une compréhension par tout le corps et une acceptation du monde dans ce qu'il peut avoir de bienveillant, de bienveillant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4529.81,4548.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/810","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il me semble que c'est quelque chose qui est très présent dans ta poésie, cette élan, prendre soin, prendre soin de l'un, prendre soin de l'autre.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4548.809,4573.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/811","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Évidemment, nous ne sommes pas prophètes, seulement poètes. Le message, je ne sais pas, mais je me disais peut-être, en fait, que la résistance est essentielle, à mon avis, pour survivre au présent et puis il faut essayer de créer des zones de rencontre et de dialogue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4574.81,4598.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/812","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"À mon avis, le poème, c'est vraiment cette capacité de s'ouvrir à la difficulté d'exister, mais joyeusement. Je vais terminer en disant un petit poème. C'est pas tout à fait joyeux, mais bon. On s'ouvre, on s'ouvre, on s'ouvre à la difficulté d'exister.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4599.81,4623.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/813","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fièvre et marchandage, nous cherchons pourtant, à travers ces galaxies de craie, malgré nos futiles frondes, un autre contaminant, qui de ces jeux nous rassurerait, car nous sommes malhabiles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4624.81,4641.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/814","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Merci.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4641.809,4644.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/815","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et de la lumière.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4671.809,4673.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/816","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est comme un notariat, un porte-notariat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4675.809,4678.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/817","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"J'ai compris en ce moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4680.809,4681.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/818","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Le son, on va mettre le son.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4682.809,4683.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/819","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"J'ai compris en ce moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4684.809,4685.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/820","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rien n'est garanti.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4686.809,4687.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/821","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Le bar des lignes, c'est ce matin. Ce n'est pas chaque matin, déjà. Ça me fait penser aux petites fins du monde de Geneviève Amieu. C'est chaque fois la fin de l'éternité, mais chaque matin, c'est un matin qui est renouvelé aussi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4687.809,4702.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/822","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Peut-être qu'il était, en fait, subtilement en train de nous donner une leçon d'impermanence aussi sur cette existence-là. Oui, j'ai choisi cette fin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4703.809,4712.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/823","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nos intuitions sont des lambeaux sauvages.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4713.809,4715.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/824","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Parfois, la lumière est une bénédiction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4716.809,4718.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/825","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Quand elle les enfonce dans la noirceur, ainsi, nous surgissons.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4719.809,4723.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/826","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nous avançons vers, nous-mêmes en nos déchirures, nous-mêmes en notre chienne mourante.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4725.809,4731.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/827","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ce qui nous succède, nous mord les flancs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4732.809,4734.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/828","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Les plis de la mémoire, c'est retranchement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4735.809,4737.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/829","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nos voix sont des maillons d'époque. 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Dans le geyser de la parole, un chemin à double voie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4762.81,4768.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/835","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nous longeons la lisière du jour.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4769.81,4771.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/836","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Les revers se bercent dans notre placenta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4772.81,4774.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/837","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"La perte silencieuse des eaux accouche d'une clairière nouvelle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4775.81,4779.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/838","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nos filles sortent par les cernes des arbres, ramblent sous les faisceaux du poème, jusqu'en nos bras,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4780.81,4786.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/839","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"jusqu'en notre résurrection, debout, impitoyablement calme.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4787.81,4792.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/840","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nous sommes vivantes. Le matin nous tend des lilas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4793.81,4797.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/841","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et si nos gestes tremblent encore, c'est de l'étreinte ardente de notre espoir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4798.81,4802.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/842","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Je remercie énormément Vanessa, Nicole, Evelyne et Louise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4817.81,4827.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/843","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et je remercie Eric d'avoir créé les belles affiches et aussi les petits programmes de salle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4832.81,4839.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Je remercie Martin, le porte-de-tête, il nous accueille toujours avec enthousiasme et bonheur.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4839.81,4846.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et je remercie Lenoir Roy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4847.81,4849.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et je remercie aussi Evelyne, parce que c'est elle, ma complice, qui m'a dit, tu viens animer la page de Rome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4851.81,4859.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et moi, vous savez, j'ai dit, un, deux, trois, oui!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4860.81,4862.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/848","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et merci à vous de nous avoir suivis de 6h jusqu'à 7h30. Merci.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925#t=4863.81,4868.81"}]},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115979/file/219925/transcript/78870/annotation/849","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/078/870/original/whisper_transcript_2025-04-25_16_32_46_-0500.vtt?1745616766","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/078/870/original/whisper_transcript_2025-04-25_16_32_46_-0500.vtt?1745616766"}]}]}]}