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Their research interests include Caribbean and Caribbean Canadian writing, auto/biography studies, diaspora studies, and contemporary poetics. Their doctoral project comprises a collection of lyric and found poetry that inquire into Caribbean Canadian literatures, epistolary practices, cross cultural poetics, literary friendships, and masculinities. Their writing has been published in The Journal of West Indian Literature, Canadian Literature, Studies in Canadian Literature, sx salon, Moko Magazine, and Pree: Caribbean Writing.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eJumoke Verissimo is the author of two award-winning poetry collections, I am Memory and A Birth of Illusion. Her most recent work, A Small Silence, was awarded the Aidoo-Synder Prize in 2020 and was also nominated for the Ondaatje Prize in 2020. Her poems and novel have been translated into Italian, French, Portuguese, Norwegian, Spanish, Japanese, and a number of other languages. 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His books Wish Maker (a children’s book) and Double Wahala, Double Trouble (a short story collection) are forthcoming from Masobe Books, Nigeria and Griots Lounge Publishing, Canada, respectively, in fall 2021.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["\"Elliptical imagining\"--as framework for the emergence of ideas (topical)","Erasure poetry--labour involved in (topical)","Flash fiction (topical)","Form--and content (topical)","History--and the past (topical)","Home--meaning of (topical)","Home--viewed in terms of connections (topical)","Image--narrating an (topical)","Image--story distilled in (topical)","Individuality--and collectivity (topical)","Loneliness (topical)","Longing (topical)","Memory / memories--role of (topical)","Memory / memories--traumatic (topical)","Memory / memories--and (mis)remembering (topical)","Memory / memories--“as an ocean” (topical)","Memory / memories--as blurring of fiction and fact (topical)","Names--as link to ancestors (topical)","Names--as story (topical)","Narrative(s)--silenced (topical)","Nigeria--national identity in (topical)","Novel (topical)","Poetry, poems--understanding the past through (topical)","Poetry, poems--visual elements in (topical)","Poetry, poems--Erasure poems (topical)","Point of view--first-person (topical)","Reparations--in the US (topical)","Slave trade (topical)","Trauma--narrating stories to navigate (topical)","Work of meaning making--as writer and reader (topical)","Writing (topical)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Fiction","Novel","Poetry","Reading"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/?language=en\"\u003eIn Copyright\u003c/a\u003e. 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Their writing has been published in The Journal of West Indian Literature, Canadian Literature, Studies in Canadian Literature, sx salon, Moko Magazine, and Pree: Caribbean Writing.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eJumoke Verissimo is the author of two award-winning poetry collections, I am Memory and A Birth of Illusion. Her most recent work, A Small Silence, was awarded the Aidoo-Synder Prize in 2020 and was also nominated for the Ondaatje Prize in 2020. Her poems and novel have been translated into Italian, French, Portuguese, Norwegian, Spanish, Japanese, and a number of other languages. Her latest work is a children\u0026rsquo;s book, Aduke and the Secret in the Moon (Cassava Republics, 2021).\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eUchechukwu Peter Umezurike holds a PhD from the University of Alberta, Canada. An alumnus of the International Writing Program (USA), Umezurike has published his critical writing in Journal of African Cultural Studies, Tydskrif vir Letterkunde, Postcolonial Text, and Cultural Studies. His research interests include postcolonial and Black diaspora literatures, gender, sexuality, and cultural studies. Umezurike is a co-editor of Wreaths for Wayfarers, an anthology of poems. His books Wish Maker (a children\u0026rsquo;s book) and Double Wahala, Double Trouble (a short story collection) are forthcoming from Masobe Books, Nigeria and Griots Lounge Publishing, Canada, respectively, in fall 2021.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/?language=en\"\u003eIn Copyright\u003c/a\u003e. 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I'm Sarah Kratz, the Interim Director of the Canadian Literature Centre at the University of Alberta","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=22.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I'm very pleased to be hosting this reading in partnership with the WRITE Program","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=29.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the Department of English and Film Studies with the support of the Canada Council for the 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Thanks for joining us today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=208.0,212.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm really looking forward to this reading and conversation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=212.0,215.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I'm really happy to have been invited by the CLC to share the space with Uche and Jemeke and to share some of my work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=215.0,223.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Until I get started, I'm going to share screen because some of the works are erasure works,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=223.0,228.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which I think, you know, is really nice to experience visually as well as orally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=228.0,233.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, but some of them are actually just also more traditional lyric works,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=233.0,238.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which I'm also really happy to share with everyone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=238.0,241.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The first poem I'll be reading is, it's based off Jemeke Kincaid's The Yellow Biography of My Mother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=241.0,246.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was composed primarily by essentially finding all the parts of the novel that contained the word half","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=246.0,254.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and then comprising it into a poem. 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And so, home itself becomes what I would like to call","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=1800.739,1808.579"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"an elliptical imagining, because that's what I kind of explore in my writing, that sense of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=1809.379,1815.059"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the things that are unsaid. The things that, you know, that we, the kind of things we say","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=1815.059,1821.939"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"should be silent. 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For me, it's not, I think it has less to do with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2068.818,2075.698"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wrestling with the burden of individuality or individualism. 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And we can't even, we can't be seen as Nigerian writers,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2142.418,2152.418"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because we've lost touch with reality. And I told him that, like, I've lived in 20,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2152.418,2160.018"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in over 20 states in Nigeria. And then you're telling me that I can't see myself as a Nigerian","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2160.018,2164.818"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"writer, that it's not only ridiculous, but it's, it's atrocious. And so I think in a way,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2164.818,2171.939"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we grapple with home, even when we're at home, or when we're out of home, because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2173.538,2178.818"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I like the phrase Jimoke used in terms of our own conception of home as a sort of elliptical","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2181.298,2187.619"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"imagining. 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So even when we, because we have individual and different conception of home, and for CJ,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2205.939,2215.459"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what is home is, is, is different from my own grasp or Jimoke's grasp of home. 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And so for me, I am always thinking, I attune myself to,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2271.059,2279.858"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to, to such lives, those narratives. And for me, it's important to really look at this unsaid,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2280.739,2288.578"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this unspoken, this silenced voices, lives and stories. 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Thank you so much to all three of you that the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2305.858,2312.499"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the readings that you gave and for syncing together, and letting us listen in on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2312.739,2319.619"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Really, really fascinating and wonderful, wonderful stuff. Now I see there's already a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2320.978,2325.458"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"question from Carol. So Carol, please turn on your microphone and jump in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2325.458,2331.619"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I want to say thank you to the readers this evening also for a wonderful reading. 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When I started to think about the name itself, the question you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2380.418,2386.658"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"asked is the question I asked. I mean, but on being a writer, my reflection is that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2386.658,2395.139"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we are bodies of stories, right? 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With people who I may never meet who are there in Brazil,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2425.699,2431.538"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like my Portuguese translator and I have been talking. And then, you know, she herself is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2432.259,2437.218"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so fascinated with the name. She's like, where's the connection? 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But I was struck by how powerfully all of your readings evoked memory","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2515.778,2524.499"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in very different ways. 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And so that's the kind, you're, you're,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2569.218,2574.658"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you're finding words of that as a way of getting into a memory, as opposed to maybe a memory being","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2574.658,2581.939"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something you want to communicate or share with someone else. 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And in the poems I've been working on, a lot of the poems","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2670.658,2682.098"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"revolve around these encounters with either smell, sight, a particular person who I try to call up","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2683.538,2693.699"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in my memory, but I can't distinctly place their face. 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It's, it's, it's always a presence,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2708.949,2716.949"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"even though it figures itself as something that has happened a long while ago. So that's,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2716.949,2727.148"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's the way I like to respond to that question, for me. I mean, memory plays a vital role in all I've written so far, I think about, well, because I have a poor memory, really.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2727.148,2741.349"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I am, I actually think of memory a lot. And it informs my form and content. And recently, I started to not just, which was why I mentioned the elliptical imagining, I wanted to find a way to theorize the framework from which the, the, the, the ideas","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2741.349,2770.388"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I write about come from where they emerge from. And I realized that everything I have written, written, even my children's recently released children's story comes from the idea of a child trying to remember, you know, a relationship with the past. And I, I have parents who told me stories, growing up, you know, I've always been around places where stories are important in the way","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2770.388,2799.388"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that it becomes a form of educating me, you know, when my dad would want to correct us, he would start with a story. You see, when I was younger, all of these things that you used to do, you know, and then he starts and he goes and then he starts. And so I kind of find a connection to that. And then there's the traumatic memory, which I'm particularly interested in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2800.388,2824.388"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because of this kind of society I'm from, and the way that the things that have, that have, that happened in our past continue to reoccur in, in our present that's in the politics and the, and it is reflected in the cultural works.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2825.388,2842.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so I begin to think of when we remember things, when we talk about memory, there's always that sense of the things that we never really negotiate really because we want to repress them, we don't want to remember them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2842.389,2858.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Toni Morrison used in, I think it's in Beloved when she's talking about remembering, using Sit, the character of Sit. And, you know, she talks about, Sit is talking about, uses the word remember, but the way she uses the word remember is because the things that she thinks she's forgotten, suddenly comes up, you know, at certain instances.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2858.389,2882.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But for me, it's about the things that one wants to, I mean, that are silenced, not because you want to silence them, but they are, you know, structures that silence those things, but they are themselves a form of memory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2882.389,2897.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then that is where I want to negotiate my writing from, those sense of the memory that I repressed, not because you want to control, you can control the remembering, but because the structures control that remembering for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2897.389,2912.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so my writing begins to question, that's why I said the elliptical imagining, when my writing begins to question the sense of, so what's that story you're not telling? You know, what's the silence? What's the noise in that silence? And so maybe somewhat in future, I'll be able to move away from memory, but it's something I think about, and I want to see the way it evolves in my writing in future as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2912.389,2938.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CJ, do you think we can easily move away from memory?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2939.389,2944.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, as Jamaica was speaking, two things came to mind. One, a nice, interesting stewardess in the audience, and that also helped me to remember this thing that kind of pre-figure Reuben Quinn said once in a class with us, he said, we're here to remind each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2944.389,2963.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's always stuck with me, you know, as a kind of praxis that we're here to remind each other. But the second thing that came to mind is, and partly because this is something I deal with, which is, and Jamaica can touch on this, is the way in which you can invent these kind of false memories. Also, we can misremember things. And I find that also an interesting part of the practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2963.389,2984.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What happens when we misremember, you know, moments of misremembering? So, and that made me think of your story, particularly, particularly, because there's some way in which it suggests that, you know, this is kind of autobiographical in some ways, because you, you know, or at least maybe that's me reading into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=2985.389,3001.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then to what extent is fiction itself this act of misremembering on purpose in order to create something else? That was really, that was kind of on my mind as you read, and I think you want to speak a bit more about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3001.389,3015.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, thank you, CJ. Yeah, I think there's a way in which fiction attempts, I'm using attempts, because there's, there seems to be an underlying politics to how we remember what we choose to remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3015.389,3030.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Jamoke was talking about this silence or silenced structures that are embedded in memory. And then you wonder, like, why do people remember certain things and then they refuse or they even resist to remember what they choose to repress?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3030.389,3050.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what's the logic? What's the politics? What drives that orientation towards not wanting to remember? And then I think in that space, we can end up misremembering what we're supposed to recollect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3050.389,3068.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, which is why I asked, can we run away from memory? And is it not like a specter that's always there, even when we choose not to see it? It's always, it has that haunting energy, that vibration around us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3068.389,3091.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then sometimes we may choose to ignore it, we may choose to repress it. And then when we even attempt to remember what we remember, and how, and for what reason, the how, the why, and the what, that's underlying this act of remembering.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3091.389,3112.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, in Jamoke's small silence, and the traumatized professor, he also says, it's a refusal to remember certain memories. And then for us as writers, how, what informs our efforts, our attempts to remember true fiction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3112.389,3141.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm interested in that sort of politics that defines how and why we remember certain things through our fiction or literature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3142.389,3157.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can I ask both of you a question? Because of the form that you use. Okay, so you're, Ucha, you use the fragmentary form, you know, and I'm interested in what, I mean, what you were thinking, how, if the content itself was what influenced the form,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3157.389,3177.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"while the form came before the content, and then also CJ, so the erasure poetry. I don't know if that's going to be, are you working towards a collection of poems? Okay, so the collection of poems, is it structured as erasure poetry? And is it the, in the ideation process, you decided that I'm going to write this poem as erasure?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3177.389,3205.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or is it that in the course of writing, you decide, you've realized that that is the form that carries the message that you, that you, I mean, or the themes or the ideas that you're trying to work with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3205.389,3222.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, actually, if our form before content, or content before form, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3222.389,3226.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3226.389,3227.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I hope I remember it well, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3227.389,3230.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was thinking about that, because I started out writing mostly these kind of lyric poems. And I think a part of why I was unsatisfied with the lyric poems that I wrote was because maybe on one level, it's because I don't necessarily trust my own voice and memory in certain ways.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3230.389,3248.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's not to say that I distrust it, but because as you say, you know, our bodies carry these stories, I'm aware of the way in which the idea of the lyric subject itself can become this problematic figure, you know, this figure that is supposed to be this individual voice that supposedly speaks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3248.389,3267.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so part of using found language and, you know, kind of erasure poetry is that it gives me on one level, it's kind of an excuse for me to say, well, I didn't technically write, these are not my words, you know, I'm not there in these words as I encounter you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3268.389,3285.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think another part of it too, is to think about how, you know, kind of to what you say, there's nothing new. These memories, these are always here, you just have to look for them and you have to isolate them and then you have to encounter them on their own terms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3285.389,3301.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's part of my motivation to think about this, that how do we, you know, how are we using language? How are we saying things that we think are new, you know, in popular discourse, or any other kind of discourse?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3301.389,3317.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How are we using language to kind of construct our realities as supposedly a new moment when we're already kind of swimming in available language that can attest to our realities as constantly, you know, not linear, not teleological, but in a sense, you know, constantly always with us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3317.389,3341.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The language of our traumas, the language of our memories, the language of, you know, beauty in some ways are always with us. So how do we encounter them and isolate them through a kind of systematic way through, and that can, for me, that's in the case of using whiteout, you know, part of, and part of why I wanted to show that work is because I think I want to make it clear that there's a labor involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3341.389,3364.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think there's something about erasure poetry, maybe a bit more so than lyric poetry, that when you see it, you can kind of, you're visualizing the labor that's involved in selecting these words and isolating things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3364.389,3375.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I wanted to communicate that as well in my work, that the work of remembering things, the work of finding things to jog your memory is something that really takes time and efforts and, you know, sometimes other tools than just your mind and, you know, the individual subjectivity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3375.389,3392.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, form and content. In the stories, I think I was trying to understand how sometimes fiction blends into reality and how in recollecting and then in attempting to write a story, where do I turn to for materials?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3392.389,3420.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do I turn to the encounters in the past? And somehow, a good number of my stories, they seem to have happened in one form or another, and they bear semblance to certain aspects of reality, either my own reality or other people's reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3421.389,3446.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, in those stories, I was more interested in where do stories begin? Like, where do we go for story? And how do we isolate what we can use to compose a story?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3447.389,3470.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not just the process, but the choices we make and the choices we don't make and how all these fuse together to come up as a piece of literature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3471.389,3488.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that, in a way, one begins to think about memory as a place of fiction and facts. And because sometimes in our memory, we can insert certain things that bear some semblance to what might happen, what could happen, or what hasn't even happened at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3489.389,3516.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, I think that's where the danger of misremembering happens. And then, when we think about how national narratives, like the narratives of the nation, of the self, of the human, and how the way facts are blended with fiction to define who is human, who is a citizen, and what makes a citizen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3517.389,3542.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, those stories with different entrances to, for me, to myth-making, to curating memory, to even attempting to write fiction that blurs itself into reality or into truth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3543.389,3565.389"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sometimes I can't really say if I deliberately decide on content before form or the other way around. 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Like for my first collection,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3622.639,3629.198"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/472","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I am memory, for instance, I borrowed the Yoruba form of the oral poetry,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3630.079,3636.559"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/473","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because of the nature of how stories are used. 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The story being, you know, the story where I come from,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3655.919,3661.998"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/476","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tell us that we can narrate stories, help us to navigate our trauma, right? In a sense,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3662.799,3670.958"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/477","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so we have proverbs, we have stories. And even when we have praise poetry,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3670.958,3676.238"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/478","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the praise poetry reflect on the traumatic experiences and try to use it from a point","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3676.238,3681.199"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/479","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to build character. 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And a lot of the times, whatever shows","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3930.159,3937.439"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up on the page after I've done that work, I want to sit with it for a while. 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And so it's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3953.518,3960.159"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really half happenstance, half luck. Sometimes the page, sometimes I get really, really bad","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3960.159,3966.559"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pages that like make absolutely no sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3967.198,3970.399"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then sometimes I, when that happens, sometimes I just white it all out, and then","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3971.198,3977.599"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I, you know, if someone asks about it, I'll say, you know, it's really, you know, avant-garde.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3977.599,3981.678"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/527","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, that's a helpful way to think about your practice, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3986.638,3992.638"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/528","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's always absolutely fascinating to hear writers talk about their processes and their","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665#t=3993.599,4000.078"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86393/file/174665/transcript/78871/annotation/529","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"practices. Thank you so much, Cornell, and Jimoke, and Uche for sharing so much with us today. 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