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todo,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=318.0,322.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"que nos obligan a pensar que de alguna manera la comunidad tiene que reaccionar para defenderse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=322.0,328.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"En ese sentido es una experiencia muy buena la comunidad católica de aquí de Edmonton,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=328.0,332.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"que ha logrado unir a las familias y más allá de diferencias, a veces de apreciaciones contingentes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=332.0,338.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ha logrado un ambiente, un clima de amistad con los salvadoreños y con los emigrantes de otros países,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=338.0,344.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"que hace que se sientan como apoyados. Creo que ese es el primer paso para vencer las dificultades del exilio.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=344.0,352.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Muchas gracias. Algunos de nuestros invitados quisieran...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=352.0,357.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hugo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=357.0,358.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Monseñor, yo quería un poco retomar la idea del exilio.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=358.0,363.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Usted ha tenido la oportunidad de juntarse con jóvenes, también ha participado en misas,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=363.0,373.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ha tenido la oportunidad de dialogar con los chilenos y con los salvadoreños.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=373.0,377.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿Cuál es su apreciación de los chilenos y de los salvadoreños o de la comunidad latina en general en esta ciudad?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=377.0,385.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Aquí se caracteriza porque han logrado unirse. Eso no lo he visto en otros lugares.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=385.0,391.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A veces los hispanos quedan dispersos en ciudades muy grandes, en barrios muy aislados,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=391.0,397.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"y entonces lo que más les duele es la soledad, el aislamiento.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=397.0,401.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sobre todo cuando llegan mayores de edad en países de idioma difícil,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=401.0,405.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"como el caso de Suecia, Dinamarca, donde estuve el año pasado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=405.0,409.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pero siempre hay un problema con los jóvenes que llegan en la edad de la adolescencia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=409.0,414.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cuando llegan pequeños se adaptan rápidamente.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=414.0,417.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Da gusto ver cómo los niños aprenden el idioma y después hasta se olvidan de hablar castellano.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=417.0,421.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pero los que llegan a los 12, 13, 14 años de edad sufren, como que los han sacado de 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produce.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=444.0,447.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y por eso es que los jóvenes necesitan un tratamiento especial,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=447.0,451.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"y son las víctimas más dolorosas del exilio.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=451.0,455.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Después, si por cualquier motivo regresan a la patria, son exiliados en su propio país,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=455.0,460.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"porque han creado nuevas amistades y tienen otra vez que desarraigarse","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=460.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"y tratar de adaptarse a un país que ya habían olvidado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=464.0,468.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yo creo que esa es una constante en todos los países de 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Salvador.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=501.0,503.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"El exilio realmente es una experiencia bastante dolorosa y se remonta realmente al origen del exilio.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=503.0,514.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Quizás los salvadoreños, como somos nuevos, estamos más orientados a pensar permanentemente","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=514.0,523.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"en la solución de los problemas en nuestros países para poder regresar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=523.0,527.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eso es un poco lo que les pasó a los compañeros chilenos hace 13 años.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=527.0,532.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sin embargo, de hace 13 años a ahora, a este tiempo, hay una gran diferencia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=532.0,539.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Es la fuerte participación de la Iglesia Católica en esos procesos de cambio en nuestros países,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=539.0,545.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sobre todo en estos momentos en Centroamérica.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=545.0,549.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hay muchos puntos de vista contradictorios sobre el papel de la Iglesia,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=549.0,555.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"el papel de las comunidades cristianas de base.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=555.0,558.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y sabemos que la Iglesia utiliza una serie de aspectos teóricos, sociológicos, económicos, 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Iglesia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=569.0,573.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ese factor que nosotros conocemos como la trascendencia","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=573.0,578.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"en la participación de los cristianos en los procesos de 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también","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=847.0,851.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tener que anotar tu carnet, tu nombre, tu dirección,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=851.0,855.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"y poder decirle usted qué es de él, te 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preguntarle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=898.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿Cuáles son las dificultades de poder trabajar en ese sentido orientado al trabajo fundamentalmente cuando se encuentran un cristiano con un marxista?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=900.01,912.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿Existe alguna contradicción en la búsqueda cuando ambos están buscando una sociedad más justa, cuando ambos de alguna u otra forma colocan al hombre como piedra angular de un cambio social?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=912.01,924.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿Cómo ven ustedes aquella apreciación, si existe alguna contradicción en el trabajo entre un cristiano y un marxista?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=924.01,933.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hay bastante experiencia al respecto y, no sé, me gustaría comenzar por ahí quizá un poco esta serie de preguntas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=933.01,942.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bueno, es lógico, al principio hay mucha desconfianza por lado y lado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=942.01,946.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cada uno tiene miedo de ser manipulado y se ha sembrado tanta desconfianza que realmente es como empezar a conversar con una persona que habla otro idioma, 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Uno encuentra a una persona de la cual se siente tal vez en otro mundo ideológico y resulta que tiene esposa, que tiene hijo, que tiene sufrimiento, que tiene necesidad de trabajo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=968.01,980.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y en ese nivel hay una compenetración muy profunda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=980.01,984.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y yo creo que todos salimos beneficiados 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produjo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1032.01,1035.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y Puebla fue el fruto de la Evangelia en Unciandia, ese documento que impulsó tanto la evangelización popular a través de las comunidades de base","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1035.01,1043.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"y también el trabajo con la religiosidad 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Hugo, ¿tú también querías decir algo?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1059.01,1062.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yo quería, partiendo de las ideas primarias que hemos estado discutiendo, poder conversar un poco acerca de la Iglesia,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1062.01,1070.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"el papel de la Iglesia en todo este periodo de dictadura que hemos tenido en Chile en particular.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1070.01,1076.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Entiendo que usted escribió un documento respecto a eso.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1076.01,1082.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vario.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1082.01,1083.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dentro de lo que usted plantea, allí entiendo que en diciembre del año 73 la Iglesia o el Episcopado envió una carta a los cuatro miembros de la Junta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1084.01,1101.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"En ese documento usted plantea que no es posible, será unos dos años atrás que leí este documento,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1101.01,1110.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"conocer más acerca de esa carta, de los contenidos de esa carta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1110.01,1114.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿Esa carta sigue en la misma situación?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1114.01,1117.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sí, porque el primer paso fue ese. La idea de todos era que parecía increíble.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1117.01,1124.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nosotros teníamos como una confianza ciega en la democracia chilena, en el profesionalismo de las Fuerzas Armadas,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1124.01,1132.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"en el catolicismo de la formación de las clases dirigentes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1132.01,1136.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No podíamos creer que pudiera haber tanta tortura, tanto sufrimiento, tanto abuso.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1136.01,1141.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Entonces lo primero que se pensó fue, bueno, 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Sí, ok. Salvador, tú primero.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1212.01,1217.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dentro de esta participación de la Iglesia,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1217.01,1222.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"entendemos, siempre mi referencia es el trabajo en Centroamérica de las comunidades 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gente","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1293.01,1300.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"que no va a tener control de las organizaciones que conducen el proceso?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1300.01,1305.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bueno, en Chile pesa mucho una historia de 150 años de 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diálogo,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1500.01,1504.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"plantear los verdaderos problemas, yo creo que eso está cortado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1504.01,1507.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No hay posibilidad de un diálogo 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humanos,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1577.01,1580.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pero todos están siendo amenazados, los derechos humanos de todos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1580.01,1583.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Por supuesto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1583.01,1584.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ahora, frente a eso, la Iglesia tiene una posición concreta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1584.01,1588.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Me gustaría conocer cuál es esa posición concreta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1588.01,1590.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hoy día, visto todos los esfuerzos que se han desarrollado","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1590.01,1593.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"para un diálogo, para una alternativa, para una solución,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1593.01,1596.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"más dentro de lo que han sido nuestros principios democráticos,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1596.01,1598.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pero que aparentemente es como hablar frente a un 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inmoral.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1604.01,1609.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"La tortura es inmoral.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1609.01,1610.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Más todavía, muchos obispos hemos excomulgado a todos los que han participado en tortura","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1610.01,1616.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"y a todos los cómplices y a todos aquellos que pudiendo evitarla no lo han hecho.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1616.01,1621.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"O sea que ahí cae una cantidad inmensa de personas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1621.01,1624.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nos parece tan grave que si no ponemos atajo a eso, no va a haber solución.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1624.01,1629.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Porque las censuras en la Iglesia, la excomunión o los 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Waldo, tú querías hacer una pregunta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1749.01,1752.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Una pregunta. Más bien, digamos, agarrarme un poco de lo que se estaba conversando ahora.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1752.01,1758.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Siendo importante la excomunión como un paso importante, concreto y práctico,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1758.01,1764.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"desarrollado por la Iglesia, como que de repente, como que de pronto el sentir del pueblo","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1764.01,1771.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"espera mucho más, digamos, cuando ve, claro, partimos del hecho, digamos,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1771.01,1775.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"de que el pueblo chileno, el pueblo latinoamericano es un pueblo con bastante 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digamos,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1790.01,1793.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"para la problemática que existe, digamos, en la actualidad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1793.01,1797.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Como que de pronto también...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1797.01,1800.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"el sentimiento del pueblo cristiano y más allá del pueblo cristiano,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1800.02,1804.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"porque hay mucha gente que no siendo cristiana, tiene mucha fe, digamos, en lo que hace, en la práctica que desarrolla la iglesia,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1804.02,1810.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"piensa, digamos, de que los pasos, esa política doble, como así, entre comillas,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1810.02,1817.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"que se tiene, digamos, con la dictadura, pone entre dichos, digamos, lo anterior.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1817.02,1824.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Toda esa política de defensa de los derechos humanos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1824.02,1827.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Por ejemplo, la gente piensa mucho, digamos, esta cosa del tedeum, por colocar un ejemplo 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Bueno, en mi diosa sí, hace tiempo que no hacemos tedeum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1836.02,1840.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lo difícil es no hacerlo en Santiago, donde hay una tradición que viene desde antes de la independencia,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1840.02,1846.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"es como una cosa cultural del país.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1846.02,1849.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yo creo que lo cortés no quita lo valiente.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1849.02,1852.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"O sea que a veces hay que hacer ciertas cosas que son de protocolo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1852.02,1856.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Claro que hay que tener cuidado, porque hay cosas que no se entienden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1856.02,1859.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Si uno va a tomar once con una persona, va a almorzar a su casa,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1859.02,1863.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"el pueblo entiende que están en buena amistad, nadie conviene almorzar a una persona con la cual está peleado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1863.02,1867.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Entonces esos gestos a veces son confusos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1867.02,1871.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yo he preferido evitarlos, pero respeto la opinión de otros hermanos obispos","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1871.02,1878.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"que creen que con eso pueden conseguir un cambio y hacer un bien.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1878.02,1882.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Es difícil. La iglesia está inserta en el pueblo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1882.02,1887.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"En el pueblo hay opiniones muy variadas, en la iglesia también hay opiniones variadas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=1887.02,1891.02"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Porque somos personas, vivimos según las expresiones y las costumbres de las personas con las cuales 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diríamos...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2740.03,2743.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/557","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"...aunque no tenía que ver directamente, pero era parte de la denuncia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2743.03,2748.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Entonces, logramos hacerlo, creo que fue una sorpresa 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nuestro...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2755.03,2758.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"...y ha sido una de las formas más, diríamos, de las experiencias...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2758.03,2762.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"...que podría mostrar, en parte, lo que la Iglesia ha ido 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Realmente es bastante interesante.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2768.03,2772.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Son cosas que uno, a veces, no está al callo de ellos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2772.03,2775.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pero tú querías hacer una intervención.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2775.03,2778.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sí, en relación a lo que Ignacio planteaba.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2778.03,2780.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/567","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tú hablás del Comité Familiar Desaparecido.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2780.03,2783.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿Cuántos familiares o desaparecidos hay en Linares?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2783.03,2788.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Presentamos una denuncia por 19 a quienes los familiares reclamaron.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2789.03,2795.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/570","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pero hay más. Hay muchos que eran campesinos y que la gente tuvo miedo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2795.03,2799.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Así que la denuncia presentada al Ministerio del Interior...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2799.03,2802.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"...con casos comprobados, digamos, y con firma, declaración jurada...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2802.03,2806.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"...de los familiares, fueron 19.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2806.03,2808.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿La Iglesia tiene alguna información acerca de dónde pueden estar estos desaparecidos?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2808.03,2815.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Como en el caso del Norte, que se me viene a la memoria.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2815.03,2818.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Allá hay muchos, pero allí no hay seguridad. Linda con la leyenda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2819.03,2824.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Quienes dicen que los tiraron al mar en Constitución.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2824.03,2827.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Otros dicen que fue en el polígono, en Linares.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2827.03,2830.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Otros dicen que están en la colonia de Ingrida.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2830.03,2833.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"En fin, ahí uno podría dar rienda suelta a la imaginación...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2833.03,2836.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"...porque no hay datos seguros.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2836.03,2838.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oye, mire, hay una cosa que yo 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desgracia...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2883.03,2888.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"...otras veces concretamente la han tirado por, diríamos, desaparecimiento en manos de la Fuerza de Seguridad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2888.03,2895.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Creo que eso es bien decidido porque ya de 7 casos que yo conozco directamente, 3 no estarían dentro de las 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miedo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2921.03,2924.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/599","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y Chillán, también hay este tipo de casos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2924.03,2928.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y Temuco, Valdivia también.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2928.03,2931.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hermano, y con esto quisiera terminar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2931.03,2933.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿Cómo tú puedes conciliar todo lo que has sufrido tú?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2933.03,2936.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ha estado en prisión, ver cómo los chilenos en esta zona sufren, los familiares desaparecidos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2936.03,2944.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿Cómo tú puedes conciliar el hecho de ser cristiano?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2944.03,2947.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿Cómo puedes tú ser capaz de todo este sufrimiento que has tenido?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2947.03,2952.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lo primero es que yo creo que fui cristiano siempre, por mi familia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2953.03,2959.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Creo que era una práctica de fe muy sencilla.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2959.03,2963.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y de ahí viene todo lo de la fe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2964.03,2966.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ahora, ¿cómo conciliar la fe y la acción?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2966.03,2968.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yo creo que si un hombre de fe no actúa en su medio concreto y no trata de cambiar la sociedad,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2968.03,2975.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no sé qué sentido hubiera tenido la venida de Cristo a la Tierra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2975.03,2979.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"O Dios hecho hombre a la Tierra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2979.03,2981.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Porque solamente si hubiera venido para decirnos, voy a morir y voy a resucitar, y de ahí para adelante cuenta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2982.03,2988.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yo creo que, no sé, me costaría un poco ser cristiano en ese aspecto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2988.03,2992.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Porque en el cielo siempre he creído, diríamos, siempre he pensado que existe otra vida.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2993.03,2998.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ahora, la forma de conciliar creo que fue en un momento determinado de mi vida,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=2998.03,3003.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"que fue la experiencia de sentirte que era tu último minuto de la vida.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3003.03,3007.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Poder caminar al patíbulo así con todas las de la ley, diríamos, junto a otras personas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3007.03,3013.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y sentir que tu vida se terminaba.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3013.03,3016.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y sentir también, valga la redundancia, que la vida no terminaba ahí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3016.03,3022.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Que yo con mis 17 años, en ese momento, iba a continuar viviendo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3022.03,3027.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No solamente en el recuerdo de mi familia, ni de la gente que me había visto actuar con un poco de rebeldía,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3027.03,3034.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no muy coordinada en muchos aspectos, dentro de la cárcel, en comunicación, en la tortura,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3034.03,3040.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sino que iba a seguir viviendo y iba a tener la posibilidad de encontrarme con mis padres, con mis familiares, con mis amigos,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3040.03,3047.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"y con toda la gente que también iba a morir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3047.03,3050.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yo sentí esa seguridad tan grande que no me quedó otra, diríamos,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3050.03,3055.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"que después cada vez que titubeo un poco en mi accionar, porque de repente vienen momentos de miedo, diríamos,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3055.03,3061.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/628","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"que es innato en el hombre, creo que por ahí parte la fuerza nuevamente.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3061.03,3067.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/629","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"O sea, existe otra vida. Si no tuviste miedo en ese momento, si pensaste en ese momento que Dios te esperaba,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3067.03,3074.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/630","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿por qué vas a dejar de pensarlo ahora?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3074.03,3077.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/631","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sí, oye, precisamente quisiera que entráramos a la última ronda de preguntas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3077.03,3081.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/632","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"El tiempo se nos ha ido avanzando tan rápidamente, los temas son tan interesantes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3081.03,3086.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/633","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Walter, tú querías hacer una...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3086.03,3087.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/634","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sí, yo quería retomar un poco la situación de los detenidos desaparecidos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3087.03,3091.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/635","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y no tan solo la situación de los detenidos desaparecidos, sino que también la situación de los detenidos ejecutados.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3091.03,3097.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/636","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y hay una serie de situaciones que hoy en día la justicia chilena no ha podido sancionar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3097.03,3105.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/637","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"De allí que, indudablemente, la justicia no tiene, digamos, quizá, la fuerza que anteriormente se conocía.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3106.03,3114.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/638","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A través del accionar mismo de los sectores sociales, se han ido percatando de que hoy en día, digamos, con dictadura,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3116.03,3122.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/639","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no se puede desarrollar justicia, no puede haber justicia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3122.03,3125.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/640","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Entonces, de allí ha salido la idea un poco del pacto contra la impunidad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3125.03,3129.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/641","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Me gustaría, digamos, preguntarle aquí a los invitados presentes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3129.03,3135.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/642","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿qué piensa la iglesia chilena en función de lo que es un pacto contra la impunidad?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3135.03,3141.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/643","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Que a mi juicio, digamos, de alguna u otra forma, hoy en día es un compromiso en la búsqueda de la justicia,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3141.03,3147.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/644","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sino hoy en día, pero por lo menos, digamos, lograr esa justicia sobre los detenidos desaparecidos,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3147.03,3152.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sobre la situación de los detenidos ejecutados, sobre el exilio en sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3152.03,3156.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Y una serie, digamos, de secuelas que hoy en día ha traído la dictadura.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3157.03,3160.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/647","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"¿Qué les parece hoy en día, digamos, ese compromiso contra la 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Algunos pensaron que reconciliación es borrón y cuenta nueva.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3177.03,3181.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eso no es reconciliación, simplemente es ocultar la verdad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3181.03,3185.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nosotros dijimos, reconciliación supone verdad, justicia y 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cristianos","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3413.03,3415.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/715","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"son igual o peor de criminales que las dictaduras militares.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3415.03,3419.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/716","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Entonces, ¿cómo ven ustedes esa experiencia de 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Son bastante diferentes las experiencias.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3430.03,3436.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yo creo que cuando hablan de retorno a la democracia en Chile","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389#t=3436.03,3439.03"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1773/collection_resources/58408/file/132389/transcript/74998/annotation/720","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no piensan en demócratas cristianos, sino en democracias 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