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She is the author of three non-fiction books, including Women Who Dig (2018), Lookout (2021), which won the 2022 Alberta Memoir Award, and Black Bear, which is forthcoming with Alfred A. Knopf in 2025. Her award-winning writing, often focusing on social and environmental justice issues, has been published in the Globe and Mail, Hakai Magazine, The Walrus, and Canadian Geographic. In 2022, she received the Lieutenant Governor of Alberta Emerging Artist Award. She has an MFA in Creative Writing from the University of British Columbia.\u003cbr\u003eHer first book, Women Who Dig, is being adapted into a documentary film series by Edmonton-based filmmaker and director, Anna Kuelken. \u003cbr\u003eOmar Mouallem is an author, filmmaker, and educator. His journalism has appeared in The Guardian, WIRED, and The Wall Street Journal. He coauthored Inside the Inferno: A Firefighter’s Story of the Brotherhood that Saved Fort McMurray, with firefighter Damian Asher, which was a national bestseller. His latest book Praying to the West: How Muslims Shaped the Americas won the 2022 Wilfred Eggelston Nonfiction Award and was named one of the Globe and Mail’s 100 best books of 2021. His documentary The Lebanese Burger Mafia, which documents the unlikely link between fast-food and Lebanese immigrants, won the 2023 Audience Choice for Best Doc at Northwest International Documentary Festival. He also teaches creative nonfiction at the University of King’s College and is the \"fake dean\" of Pandemic University School of Writing, a virtual school he founded in support of writers affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. 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Her award-winning writing, often focusing on social and environmental justice issues, has been published in the Globe and Mail, Hakai Magazine, The Walrus, and Canadian Geographic. In 2022, she received the Lieutenant Governor of Alberta Emerging Artist Award. She has an MFA in Creative Writing from the University of British Columbia.\u003cbr\u003eHer first book, Women Who Dig, is being adapted into a documentary film series by Edmonton-based filmmaker and director, Anna Kuelken. \u003cbr\u003eOmar Mouallem is an author, filmmaker, and educator. His journalism has appeared in The Guardian, WIRED, and The Wall Street Journal. He coauthored Inside the Inferno: A Firefighter’s Story of the Brotherhood that Saved Fort McMurray, with firefighter Damian Asher, which was a national bestseller. His latest book Praying to the West: How Muslims Shaped the Americas won the 2022 Wilfred Eggelston Nonfiction Award and was named one of the Globe and Mail’s 100 best books of 2021. His documentary The Lebanese Burger Mafia, which documents the unlikely link between fast-food and Lebanese immigrants, won the 2023 Audience Choice for Best Doc at Northwest International Documentary Festival. He also teaches creative nonfiction at the University of King’s College and is the \"fake dean\" of Pandemic University School of Writing, a virtual school he founded in support of writers affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. He lives in Edmonton, Alberta."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/?language=en\"\u003eIn Copyright\u003c/a\u003e. 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gather","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=18.12,27.4"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"here today in the Mississippi, Wisconsin Treaty Six Territory, Region Four of the Métis Nation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=27.4,34.36"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Alberta and in this lovely space generously provided by the University of Alberta Press.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=34.36,41.24"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's wonderful to see you all out here joining us for today's event, which is part","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=42.68,50.599"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the Centre for Literatures in Canada's series of readings and conversations on the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=50.599,56.52"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"theme of air and fire. This is offered to you today in partnership with LitFest.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=56.52,64.68"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We've been collaborating with LitFest on a number of events over the years and it's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=66.199,71.639"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really a wonderful, wonderful partnership. We're so grateful to you, Jenna, and all the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=71.639,77.879"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"folks at LitFest for making this happen as well. I'm struck by LitFest's mandate to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=77.879,85.48"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"keep the city reading and talking about what matters most. And as we are, of course,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=86.12,92.68"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coping with the effects of climate change, wildfire matters more and more to us,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=93.8,100.68"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not just here in Alberta, but across the country and across the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=101.4,106.44"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So our featured writers today, Omar Mualim and Trina Moyles, know a lot about this subject.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=107.72,115.16"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They are here to share their books about wildfire and to talk about their experiences","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=115.72,120.36"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"writing them and working in this area. Trina Moyles is an author, journalist,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=120.919,128.679"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and creative producer based between Alberta and the Yukon Territory. She is the award-winning","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=128.679,134.759"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"author of three non-fiction books, including Women Who Dig from 2018, Lookout, Love,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=134.759,141.96"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Solitude, and Searching for Wildfire in the Boreal Forest, which she's talking about today,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=141.96,148.119"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which came out in 2021 and won the 2022 Alberta Memoir Award, and the forthcoming Black Bear,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=149.24,156.36"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is due out in 2025. Trina's award-winning writing on social and environmental justice","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=156.36,164.679"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"issues has been published in the Golden Mail, Hawkeye Magazine, The Walrus, and Canadian","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=164.679,170.759"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Geographic. 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His journalism has appeared in The Guardian, Wired,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=185.399,192.279"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and The Wall Street Journal. And his book, Praying to the West, How Muslims Shaped the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=192.279,198.199"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Americas, was named one of the Golden Mail's 100 Best Books of 2021. And before that, he co-authored","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=198.199,207.16"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Inside the Inferno, a firefighter's story of the brotherhood that saved Fort McMurray with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=207.16,213.72"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"firefighters Damien Asher, which became a national bestseller. And in fact, print copies are hard to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=213.72,221.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"come by, and we've got like four here, so you'll all have to rush to the back. I'll sell you mine","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=221.08,227.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for a hundred bucks. So this is the book, of course, he's going to talk about today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=227.0,233.32"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Omar also teaches creative non-fiction at the University of Kingston College.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=234.44,238.279"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And is this still the case that you are the fake dean of pandemic university school? 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Grant's crew is dispatched to investigate the storm,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=931.89,935.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hunting for low, hidden smokes, but they can't get close enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=935.89,939.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's far too volatile, too many lightning strikes, and so the crew is dispatched","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=939.89,943.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back to base for the evening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=943.89,947.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I stay up past eight o'clock, well beyond the call of duty, to keep vigilant for smokes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=947.89,951.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The storm pushes to my southwest, towards the town of Manning,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=951.89,955.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I watch as the dry strikes continue, but it's pointless to call them in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=955.89,959.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The duty officer knows. 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My distance was way off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1055.89,1059.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The wildfire is burning more than 70 kilometers away from me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1059.89,1063.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It must be the first time in history that our towers have crossed off on a wildfire, he exclaims,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1063.89,1067.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"probably true. 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He's heard our late night detections and hurried up his tower.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1075.89,1079.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He's closer to the blaze than Justin and I are. There's a second smoke,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1079.89,1083.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he says. 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Eric, a firefighter, sends me photographs of the wildfire","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1091.89,1095.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"burning less than 20 kilometers north of the base. 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Me either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1191.89,1195.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Does seven years make you a lifer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1195.89,1199.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, not even close. 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Yeah, how was climbing that tower?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1255.89,1259.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, exciting. Climbing the tower was exciting. I think I climbed it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1259.89,1263.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"once. I couldn't imagine climbing it multiple times a day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1263.89,1267.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1267.89,1271.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Over multiple summers for seven years or three years as she","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1271.89,1275.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did it, but it's such a fascinating","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1275.89,1279.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"culture, and it's a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1279.89,1283.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fascinating way to spend your summer. Did it make you feel like you wanted to write a book at the fire tower?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1283.89,1287.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1287.89,1291.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right now, I've been thinking, oh, I could really use a writer's retreat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1291.89,1295.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It would be great to have that lookout cabin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1295.89,1299.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for that, but I guess you'd have to take up the job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1299.89,1303.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And reading, I haven't read your book, but reading","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1303.89,1307.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what I think was maybe the intro of the book, a passage","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1307.89,1311.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"yesterday, sounds like some days there's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924#t=1311.89,1315.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/115978/file/219924/transcript/78865/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just no break. 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