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Alberta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485#t=17.0,24.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485/transcript/78898/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I would like to begin by acknowledging our location today and that we are in the territory of the First Nations,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485#t=24.0,31.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485/transcript/78898/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Treaty 6 and of the Métis people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485#t=31.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485/transcript/78898/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, welcome again. Make sure that you grab our brochure for a look at all of the events that we have planned for you this fall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485#t=35.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485/transcript/78898/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I would also like to extend a special welcome to the students of English 103 taught by Professor Szegeki","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485#t=47.0,57.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485/transcript/78898/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and my own students from English 375.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485#t=57.0,61.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485/transcript/78898/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And just so that you know, for some of you may not have seen, the attendance sheets are at the back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485#t=61.0,67.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/88951/file/184485/transcript/78898/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So if you want to make sure that you get your name down on those sheets, that would be 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