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I'm Sarah Kratz. For those of you who don't know me, I'm the Director of the Canadian Literature Centre","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=20.0,27.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at the University of Alberta on Treaty 6 Territory and Region 4 of the Métis Nation of Alberta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=27.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This has been a gathering place for diverse Indigenous nations for thousands of 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us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=46.0,51.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Today's reading is brought to you in partnership with the Writer-in-Residence Program at the Department of English and Film Studies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=51.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Here to introduce this year's Writer-in-Residence, Ifeoma Chinuwuba, is one of our PhD students","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=60.0,67.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and an accomplished writer in her own right, Jamoke Verissimo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=67.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jamoke is the author of two award-winning poetry collections, I Am Memory and A Birth of 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I'll begin by posing three questions about Canada, movement, and of course the pandemics to Ifeoma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=407.0,427.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If it's fine, I would also ask if you can read maybe your poems or a writing of yours, along with your responses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=427.0,438.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So following that, and after the questions, I would invite members of the audience to also ask and respond to their question. But now, I would also say thank you, Ifeoma, for this opportunity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=438.0,453.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you for the generous introduction of me and my works. I'm happy to be in Edmonton to enjoy this weather.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=453.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thanks to the University of Alberta, Department of English and Film Studies, who deemed me worthy to be appointed their writer-in-residence for this 2021-2022 session.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=464.0,481.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you very much. Also to Sarah Kurtz and your colleagues at the CLC for also inviting me to be part of this dialogue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=482.0,495.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm here, I'm at your service, at your disposal, whatever you can ask me to get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=495.0,503.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, thank you. Thank you so much for that, Ifeoma. So my first question has to do with Canada.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=503.0,512.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, you've been to so many places, you've traveled to so many places. These travels come with personal meaning for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=512.0,522.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember one of the discussions we had, you talked about the diverse beauty portrayed in Canada's landscape, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=522.0,533.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, for example, we could say Edmonton is a fascinating city on pretentiously integrating nature and urbanity. I like to call it a city of surprises, like a city that leapt out of the wood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=533.0,550.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm thinking about how you kind of bring these travels, you know, your travel experiences to this settling down in Canada, which gives you this diverse sense of travel in one place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=550.0,568.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How do you approach grounding yourself in Canada? How do you connect your experiences of travel to settling here in Canada?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=568.0,579.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"First, you mentioned that I was a child refugee. At the age of seven or eight years, I was forced to flee.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=579.0,589.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"First, before the even international flight, there was an internal displacement, moving from the city to the village, running away from the theatre of war, where it was hardest.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=589.0,603.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the second movement was running away from Biafra, then, out of the country, being ferreted away into a neighboring country, Libreville, Gabon, and then from there to Ireland as a refugee again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=604.0,622.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think that is where the travel bug bit me, very young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=622.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there was culture shock, mind you, because when I left the village for a French-speaking country, I didn't even know there was another language.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=630.0,641.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We are still battling with English, trying to understand the is and the was. And then, yeah, we were faced with French, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=641.0,650.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So travel, as you know, our people say that a traveler knows more than the gray-haired person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=650.0,657.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A person who has traveled knows more than the person who has not moved from his ancestral lands.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=657.0,666.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that bug, that travel bug, I guess, bit me there, and also the interest in French, to learn more about this language.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=667.0,677.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, from there, Ireland, a new culture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=677.0,684.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you, when I got to Ireland, I couldn't, even from the aircraft, as we are about to land, you know, with these characters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=684.0,691.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The lady that was accompanying us, she gave us new clothes, you know, thick sweaters and hats and trousers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=691.0,700.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we're saying, where are we going that we have to dress like this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=700.0,704.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were looking at each other, the refugees, you know, because in the village, we already had our, you wear your dress and from January to December, it's the same weather.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=705.0,713.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You run out and you play. Here we are being given a, you know, stuff that looked like jute bags to wear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=713.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that was a culture shock, you know, from the travel. Not to mention when we got to the school and people were touching our hair to see, did you put cotton on your hair?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=720.0,729.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Why is your hair like that? And, you know, touching you. So many aspects of meeting a new culture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=729.0,736.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We had the, not to talk about food. In our villages, we are eating what we call swallow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=736.0,742.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, we just dip it in a sauce and I hear they were giving us Irish potatoes and carrots and leaves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=742.0,749.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we say, what, what is this? So the culture shock was there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=749.0,753.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But after the war, I went back to Nigeria, now Nigeria, no longer Biafra, now Nigeria, and completed my education and opted for the foreign service.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=753.0,766.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That travel bug had bitten me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=766.0,770.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As a diplomat, I traveled all over the world, not just from foreign postage, posted to this country to work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=770.0,777.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But even at home, when you're not at post, you have to represent your country at international conferences, get sent to all over the world, anywhere, depending on your department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=777.0,791.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that diplomacy, that career was a nomadic one, an itinerant one, you know, moving from one place to the other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=792.0,798.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it enabled me to visit so many countries. I didn't live in them. Some countries, two, three days, attend a conference and come out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=798.0,807.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But if you had the time in the evenings, you went to the city center to get the DNA of the town, of the city, of the country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=807.0,818.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let me digress here to say that travel, travel is an important part of a writer's life, because you get to learn more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=818.0,828.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that is physical travel. There's also the mental travel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=828.0,832.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because as a writer, immediately, somebody gets your book, you transport him or her from his vicinity, from where he is, you move him out of that environment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=832.0,844.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He may be in Edmonton, maybe he studied in Edmonton, but he opens your book and you're talking about Africa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=844.0,851.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so you transport him from that environment to another place and the culture and everything is part of the travel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=851.0,860.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, coming back to the physical travel and my experiences all over the world and what similarities they have with Canada.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=860.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I must say, first, I have driven from Edmonton to Jasper. So in the middle of the Rockies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=870.0,877.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think my mind was agape throughout. Wow, what's nature? What is this? How majestic, how huge, how? Oh, my God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=877.0,889.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I couldn't fathom it. I couldn't process it. But then I remember that I have seen Rockies, rock formations akin to the Rockies here in Alberta.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=889.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the Plateau States, Plateau States in Nigeria, even from the name you can tell that it's on a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=900.41,906.65"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"high pedestal and has a lot of rock formation, boulders, hard rock, all that. 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You also get this in,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=914.33,920.889"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if you're overflying, maybe the Swiss Alps, the French Alps, Italian Alps that are all together,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=922.17,927.37"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's the same thing. You see rocks, rocks, rocks together. 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So it's one of the most magnificent sites I've seen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=962.33,969.05"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I also met it in Niagara Falls. So it's also Niagara Falls. Also these waterfalls that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=969.05,976.09"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bestride two countries, you know, and the mist and the rainbows and everything. 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We have the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1008.17,1015.77"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"River Niger too, in Nigeria, that courses from so many countries, from the Futagela Mountains","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1015.77,1023.45"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Guinea, crosses so many countries and drops into the Atlantic Ocean in Nigeria. 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Also, it sets my mind back to the River Niger. So there are these","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1048.89,1057.289"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"similarities in landscapes in Canada, because Canada, as you said, is very diverse. It","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1057.849,1066.489"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"encompasses so many things, so many, I guess, so many phenomena that you find in other areas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1066.489,1075.45"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So now to conclude this first part, I'd like to read a poem that I wrote. The title is,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1076.01,1083.45"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh Birds. At some point, I was in Plateau State. As a student, I underwent a course of study,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1083.45,1091.129"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and each morning I would go jogging, go walking, and birds would be perching along the way,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1091.129,1097.769"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, accompanying me, you know, chirping, tweeting along the way. And every day,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1098.73,1105.129"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"every morning, I told you, in Nigeria, we have the same kind of weather from January to December. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1105.129,1110.33"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you could be doing the same activities, just wake up and you're out. And so I wrote this ode to birds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1110.33,1117.53"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh birds, if I could flap my wings the way you do, all day long, from east to west,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1119.37,1129.37"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up and down, on hills and valleys, from branches to cables, how slim my arms would be too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1130.33,1139.769"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If I could shrill and chirp, twit and whistle, from dawn to dusk, to sun and breeze,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1141.289,1149.37"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"birds and flowers, how thrilled I would feel. And if I could peek at my food here and there,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1150.409,1158.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"grains are that, some ants and fruits along the way, no fats, no alcohol, how nimble and fit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1160.089,1169.93"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would look. Then would I balance on one limb, strut on nature's runway like the egrets,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1170.569,1180.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"clad in white like a bride, copy the peacock, do the catwalk for all to see. Oh birds,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1180.65,1191.21"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I could learn from the thrush, Pilate's instructor, to jerk my neck this way and that,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1192.17,1200.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stretch to my waist, stretch to my waist again and again for a scratch, wiggle from side to side,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1201.61,1210.409"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and wave my tail in circles, oh how chic I would look too. Thank you so much,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1211.289,1218.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ifeoma, for connecting the grounding to nature in the response to the question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1219.849,1225.369"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And thank you for the poem as well. My second question, I'll just go on to the second question","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1227.45,1235.369"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it has to do with the pandemic. I think it would be impossible to go on with this without","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1235.369,1241.05"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"having the question of the pandemic. So of course we are living in the midst of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1241.529,1247.369"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"uncertainties, as we like to say, and it is altering the course of our lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1248.569,1254.089"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Some of the ways these alterations have occurred is so ingrained in us that we are unaware of how","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1256.33,1263.289"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"much we have changed. And we have also associated the sense of pandemic with, you know, the loss,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1263.289,1274.33"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sadly, deaths, and which comes with the different mutations and names that we continue to hear in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1274.33,1283.45"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the news. But my interest, when I think about the pandemic, especially for you as a writer,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1283.45,1291.529"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is what it means for you. What is the pandemic for you? Just when the pandemic began,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1292.49,1303.289"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Diane Brand had written an article, Narrative Reckoning and the Calculus of Living and Dying,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1304.569,1312.249"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on how nothing had changed. So I would want you to think about or tell us about what the pandemic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1312.249,1320.17"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is for you. And if by any chance you have a poem to accompany that, I'm sure we would like to listen","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1320.73,1326.089"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as well. Thank you. Thank you again. 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So most of us didn't live to see the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1343.689,1350.089"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"last one. And I don't think we are alive to see the next one. 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But the Abiku said, yes, whatever you do, I'll come back, I'll come and torment you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1531.77,1538.33"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this poem, come back to our pandemic, I see this pandemic as the evil child that goes and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1538.33,1544.169"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"comes back. You call it COVID-19, because it emanated in 2019, but it continued in 2020,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1544.169,1554.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"2021, 2022, we are still here. Of all the things we have done, we have been jabbed first time,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1555.609,1562.97"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"second time, we've boosted, we have covered, we have done everything for you to go away, you don't want to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1562.97,1569.129"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go away. So you are, it's an evil child. I'm dedicating this poem, this chapbook to coronavirus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1569.129,1577.45"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is a plea for mercy. Pity us, have mercy, have mercy. Here for two, three years, how many, have mercy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1577.45,1586.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that is the poem I'm going to read now. As I said, it's a dedication to the chapbook","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1587.609,1594.569"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm going to produce on the pandemic and me. And it says, dedicated to the coronavirus,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1594.569,1602.729"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not out of love, dear, but in deference to your power. Witness a crown atop your coconut head.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1603.689,1612.41"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have shown your might, unleashed havoc on us, taking lives, proliferated death.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1613.77,1621.77"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have scuttled fellowship, separated Nono from Bambino, exhausted our medicals,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1623.049,1629.77"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and snapped our medical systems in two. You, you, you unravelled economies,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1630.09,1638.41"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"shuttered businesses, disrupted supply chains, stripped retail shelves naked, spiking inflation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1639.369,1648.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We admit you are mighty. Now, please go away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1648.33,1654.97"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Go to whence you came. Go, go. You and your multiple personalities,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1656.809,1662.569"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your COVID cycles, boom and bust, go away. Leave us now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1664.09,1669.45"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Coronavirus, Dell, Omi, Ihu, whatever, go and latch the door behind you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1670.249,1680.809"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Me and the pandemic, and when the chapbook is out, all the nuances, all the various aspects","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1682.249,1689.929"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of how it impacted us will be in it. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1689.929,1695.21"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you once again, Ifeoma, for sharing the poem on the pandemic with us as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1696.01,1701.21"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I also should have mentioned that Ifeoma's poems and writing is very much influenced by the oral","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1702.33,1710.249"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tradition of storytelling, and it's very focused on immersing the reader or the audience in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1710.249,1721.29"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"experience. So thank you once again, Ifeoma. You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1721.29,1726.89"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. So to the very last question, and then we would ask the audience to join us in this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1727.45,1733.609"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"conversation, because what is a conversation when we are not sharing? 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And of course, you also","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1759.45,1768.41"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have shared with us the project you're working on, which is the pandemic and me. And of course,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1768.489,1776.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your very kind interaction with corona, if I would put it like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1776.01,1782.33"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we are pleading with you. So my question has to do with your writing, your travel,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1784.569,1794.41"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your experience, your trauma, your childhood trauma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=1794.41,1798.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, how they have influenced your writing. 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Wayfarers","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2391.86,2401.059"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"struck you with violence and spite. But, shoot your sword, Plateau. Dispose the dagger. Fling","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2401.059,2410.819"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the knife away. Unclasp the AK. Drop the machete. Come, come rather to me. Enter my embrace.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2411.3,2423.059"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let me smother you with love and kindness, compassion, grace. Open, Plateau, open. Let me in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2423.86,2431.139"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Unlock the gates. Do roll away the blinders. Let love in again, Plateau. Let love in. For beneath","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2432.1,2443.139"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"love lurks life. Thank you so much for that poem. It's time to ask the audience to join us in this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2443.139,2451.86"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"conversation. You can drop your questions or comments in the box. And of course, you're also,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2451.86,2460.499"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you can also raise your hands and join us by just telling us what you think or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2461.22,2470.179"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if there's a question that you would like to ask ifoma, please do so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2471.3,2474.98"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There are just so many kind notes of gratitude here for your beautiful","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2475.619,2480.1"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"poetry readings, ifoma. It's so wonderful to hear you read them. And Jamoke, thank you so","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2480.1,2485.939"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"much for your questions. This was such a rich and wide-ranging discussion. Soul-searching poetry,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2485.939,2492.259"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as Carol says. So I see one question here from Luciana, who says, Hi, ifoma. And she's curious","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2492.259,2502.499"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as to how you insert different languages into your poems so seamlessly. Could you say something","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2502.499,2509.54"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about this practice? Yeah, I'm bilingual, maybe even a polyglot, if you include my native languages,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2509.54,2517.22"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Igbo. And I studied French in the university. And I lived in Italy, as I said. 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And then visits all over the world, you pick up the languages,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2532.02,2538.259"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because they tell us in the foreign service school that language draws people to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2538.259,2543.86"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so that was one of the first things we do when we get to a country, we pick up the main.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2543.86,2548.42"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then as a writer, you infuse your writing with these things. 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It's the same worldview that killed twins, multiple births.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2592.819,2601.46"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Those days, if you had multiple births, you had to come out with two kids or three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2601.46,2605.22"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Go to the Igbo forest. We don't understand. They didn't understand. We didn't understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2606.579,2610.9"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Multiple births, sickle cell anemia, albinism even. You were born an albino. Where from this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2612.259,2619.139"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We didn't understand. So what we have here with coronavirus is science. Now in Nigeria,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2620.1,2627.3"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for instance, many African countries, before you marry, even in the U.S., as a Black person,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2627.3,2632.259"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because it's a disease of the Black, before you marry, they ask you, what's your husband's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2632.259,2636.98"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"genotype? 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It's the difference between so many deaths that happen, and nowadays people get","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2669.939,2675.619"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Omicron and they don't even need to be hospitalized. But in 2020, oh my God, it was like","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2676.9,2683.139"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"death was stalking the land. It was going up and down and striking. 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Before, if it was in a, it was physical and you were wearing a mask, I wouldn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2715.15,2732.51"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Nigeria, we used to say that this COVID is very bad because you see somebody owing you in the street and you're not recognizing him. You just pass and you pass because he's all masked, you see. 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So if you don't protect the person coming in to your country, you haven't protected anybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2840.189,2859.549"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think it is time to go beyond what the Yoruba people call T1, T1, my own, my own. This is my drug. This is my secret. This is, it's time to go beyond that and say that when you say the world is a global village, it is a global village. 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Her name is Ruth Cuthand. As I say, she seed beaded the image of the virus first, and then she made prints, and I bought this print from her, but it might be a nice book cover.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2934.29,2949.81"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, but I'll put a mask on that coronavirus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=2952.29,2956.29"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll put a mask on the virus, 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Canada,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=3067.649,3076.29"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the 3rd of February, we're going to have some African disciples recite the poems of African","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=3076.29,3085.01"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"masters, you know, to mark the Black History Month next month, so the papers were coming up,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=3085.01,3091.17"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but I thought I should just let you know, so Jumoke herself will be reciting one of her","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=3091.249,3096.45"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"African poems, so more information on our 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day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=3113.969,3117.249"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663#t=3117.89,3118.369"},{"id":"https://ualberta.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1823/collection_resources/86392/file/174663/transcript/78867/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you 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